Grading toned coins

I'm feeling lazy today, so I hope this hasn't been discussed elsewhere.

Which TPG is best for grading toned coins?

If I submit a toned proof in the old government pliofilm sleeves, are they more likely to get graded and not "details" holdered?

Thanks.

 

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Take your pick. They're both going to purport to judge the toning based on the same specious standards which when all is said and done reduce to nothing better than whether they feel like letting the toning trade in their marketplace at their price guide. They have to intellectualize the experience, you see. After all, they're professionals.

 

I forgot about that aspect of it all. BTW, if I submit an Bus Strike Eagle (or whatever you'd call the non-proof version) in the velvet holder from the Mint, will the TPGs accept that?

 

Well, the coin is the non-proof version, so it's not in an air-tite or any sort of lens. It's in the velvet box, similar to how medals are.

Edit: But, yeah, I guess I could just pop it out of the box.

 

yea they come in capsules

 

I'm not crazy folks...


Edit: Found one on eBay that isn't toned, and posted by someone with much better photography skills:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/380358192422

 

Ahhh.........but you are crazy since the 2001 Uncirculated Silver Eagle did not come in such a box.

What you've come across is someone wanting to sell something which it is not. This particular Silver Eagle Listing is deceptive in that it is NOT Original Government Packaging.

 

Might I add that a coin in its original Government Pliofilm is no guarantee that the coin was not damaged either before it was packaged or while it was being packaged.

There are some mint set coins which received damage during the packaging phase which, unfortunately, amounts to post mint damage. Let me see if I can dig up a picture.

As to the OP's question, NGC is a bit more liberal on toned coins.

 

Any idea where these came from, in that case? I assumed it was OGH, since it has the silver eagle tack on the outside of the case.

 

That's not the OGP for a 2001 ASE. I believe the box itself should be either blue or purple, and the coin would be placed in a non-ringed air-tite if I'm not mistaken. Probably AT as well.

 

I've yet to see a single Business Strike 2001 ASE in an airtite. As for AT, I acquired the coin from a friend who said he got it white, so I'm fairly certain it isn't AT.

Edit: Haven't seen any MS ASEs in airtites before 2006.

 

Oh, I see now. It is a business strike. You're correct my apologies. The toning appears to float and doesn't have much depth, do you have any better images?

 

Meh. That would require me to take the coin out. I'll try later.

 

You're probably right. The felt/whatever" holder that the coin is in pops out, and the rest of the box looks like the proof boxes.

 

After Doug's comment, I realized that I could take the tray out without removing the coin.