Grading on the spot.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by AdamL, Aug 30, 2006.

  1. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure if I chose the right section of the forum to post this in. And its probably a newbie type of question. But I need a little advice. Currently, my main project is completing a set of all the Walker's from the 30's and 40's (raw) in MS condition. I'm wondering what advice you guys might have for me on figuring out the grades of these coins while I'm in the coin shop, or at the coin show. For example, the 1938-D is listed in "coin prices" magazine as $260 in AU-50, and $525 in MS-60. Now, I think I can tell the difference between these grades. But the differences can be hundreds of dollars, and I want to get it right, before spending my hard earned money. What should I do? Get books on grading, and a good magnifier? Any suggested reading? I appreciate any advice.
     
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  3. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    AU-50 has a slight trace of wear on Liberty's head, knee, and breasts; and on eagle's claw and head.

    MS-60 has no trace of wear but light blemishes.
    Also I have found it helpful to look at the sandal under the motto.
    You can tell a lot by how much detail is left in the sandal.
    The 38-D is one I don't have yet.
     
  4. Becky

    Becky Darkslider

    Your own advice is spot on. No need for me to add anything, except maybe to hang around and spend some quality time with graded examples. Even eBay, Heritage and Teletrade can be good sources for you to study the Top 3 grading company's examples. If you are lucky enough to have a dealer near you that you trust, spend some time with them too. :)
     
  5. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    Be careful, a novice may have a hard time differentiating between an au-58, and a low uncirculated grade. I would suggest buying the more expensive dates last, and learning to grade walkers as you go, so by the end, you will have an easier time selecting the best coin for your set.
     
  6. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    buy the book, and get the magnifying glass, and go to shops and grade as many as you can see, speak with the dealer, etc.
     
  7. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    I would also add that the Walker series has some of the worst struck coins the mint has made, especially for the branch mints during the 40's. A well struck 40-S is a coin that looks AU since there will be detail missing from the skirt, and it will cost a premium to get a well struck specimen. For instance this coin is an average strike for a 40-S:

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    So you must not only be able to differentiate a coin with wear from a coin without wear, but you must also learn to recognize when a coin is worn and when it is just poorly struck (the coin above is unc, it just looks worn because of the poor strike).
     
  8. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    I have noticed exactly what you speak of, with the weak strikes.
     
  9. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    My suggestion won't help you. Since I have so much trouble separating many AU coins from low MS coins, I tend to prefer the best looking AU coins I can find to MS when I'm not buying slabs. Frequently, a nice AU with clean surfaces looks better than a more expensive MS60-62 to me. It saves money and worry. But if you have your heart set on a collection of MS coins, my suggestion won't help.
     
  10. bzcollektor

    bzcollektor SSDC Life Member

    I agree 1000%
     
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