Grade Washington 3

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by lonegunlawyer, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    For your grading pleasure, a silver bicentennial quarter in a PCGS holder.

    DON'T LOOK AT THE FILE NAME DOWN IN THE CORNER UNLESS YOU REALLY MUST KNOW.

    Quarter 1976S MS67 1 O.jpg Quarter 1976S MS67 1 R.jpg

    Quarter 1976S MS67 2 O.jpg Quarter 1976S MS67 2 R.jpg

    I will post the grade tomorrow evening around this time.
     
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  3. theSharpGun

    theSharpGun The King

    That's a really nice one!! MS67 was my first guess and then something gave it away haha
     
  4. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    A couple of closeups - most of the scratches on the head are on the slab.

    Quarter 1976S MS67 2 Closeup.jpg Quarter 1976S MS67 1 Closeup.jpg
     
  5. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    What I find interesting with this grade is the rather large distracting scratch in front of Washington's face.
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I recluse myself for peaking. Dang..........
     
  7. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    You know if the point of these threads is to get people to guess the grade, you shouldn't put the grade in the file name of the picture lol...
     
  8. Toss up between 66 and 67 but I will go with 67. TC
     
  9. goldmark

    goldmark Active Member

    In order to get a better understanding on the grading of coins by PCGS and NGC, I've visited a German coin dealer with high grade examples of slabbed coins, among them absolutely stunning pieces like a German 5 Mark 1960 J silver coin in MS69 and some early Empire proofs and other more modern coins in MS67 down to MS65. Based on these coins, where high grade MS67 hasn't shown any damage to the naked eye I fail to understand how this Washington quarter can even come close to MS67?!
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Well first you are looking at pictures versus coin in hand and the attached pictures might not show the luster. I can see where you might not even be able to compare coin types either. My first impression of the coin was 66, but still 67 is on the range based off the picture. I do not look at enough washington quarters to really have a feel for some of the ms grades. Just my opinion.
     
  11. goldmark

    goldmark Active Member

    It's not about the luster that isn't shown, it's about the damage that is despite. I expect continuity in methodology for the gradings, slight variances are one thing outright use of different standards another case altogether.
     
  12. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I don't see any damage and in the second set the OP says most scratches are on the slab. And at a 67 grade I can see where a few bag hits are acceptable.
     
  13. goldmark

    goldmark Active Member

    There "is the rather large distracting scratch in front of Washington's face", furthermore I see rub and some of the scratches on Washington's face are indeed on the coin.
     
  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I see what you are saying, but they look like bag marks. On some of the coins I collect(or have collected) it would depend on where the hits were and the distraction they might cause. Then luster and such helps me determine if I like the coin at the grade - I know lots of Morgans I would skip(if I collected them) because the hits from 63 to 65 are distracting. This is a case of where I would need to see the coin in hand to really judge it - pictures alone can be very misleading.
     
  15. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    I just learned that. :)
     
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