Grade this Peace Dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mycohopper, Jul 25, 2010.

  1. mycohopper

    mycohopper Junior Member

    Had a 1923-P lying around and didn't know if it was worth getting slabbed. Let me know what it might grade. Thanks in advance

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  3. ice

    ice Just happy to be here

    I think it would go AU has some rim dings on the back and a little wear on the feathers. Ice
     
  4. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    That coin isn't worth being slabbed, save your money for more coins ;)
     
  5. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    AU is the best this might grade from a TPG. The 23 is common, value between $10 - $15.
     
  6. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    looks over dipped to me - no grade from a TPG
     
  7. jerseycat10

    jerseycat10 Peace Dollar Connoisseur

    Looks MS-62'ish to me. Not worth getting graded, in any case. This particular date isn't worth encapsulation until MS-65.
     
  8. stealer

    stealer Roller of Coins

    Mike, I am still learning, how can you tell that it's dipped?
     
  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I'm thinkin' 62......
     
  10. jerseycat10

    jerseycat10 Peace Dollar Connoisseur

    Fairly simple. 100 year old coins shouldn't be blast white. Additionally, overdipping a coin will result in a coin with little luster and unnatural shine.
     
  11. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    think mabye an optimistic MS-63 (IF clean) but not worth paying its value to be slabbed
     
  12. jerseycat10

    jerseycat10 Peace Dollar Connoisseur

    In my opinion this coin has adequate luster and has not been over-dipped.
     
  13. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    agreed....have one similar but with a little more luster.
     
  14. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Dead on, jersey. An over-dipped coin will exhibit a bright white color but extremely subdued luster.

    While jersey disagrees that the coin has been dipped, I say that the luster on this particular coin is largely gone and that this is a date that is typically well struck with outstanding luster.

    Does this coin exhibit even better than average luster? IMHO no. If you think not, then you can also see that it's been dipped. If on the other hand you're saying that these pictures show a coin with outstanding luster then I say that you need to adjust your screen resolution.
     
  15. jerseycat10

    jerseycat10 Peace Dollar Connoisseur

    I agree that the coin has been dipped, i just believe that it hasnt been overdipped to the point where a tpg would bodybag it.
     
  16. mycohopper

    mycohopper Junior Member

    Thanks for the replies everyone. In hand, this coin does look overdipped, depending on how you hold it and what light you use.

    So how you would tell apart an overdipped coin from a coin that was just naturally not very lustrous (ex: coins that came from the plastic mint set dividers)??

    Another question that came to my mind today.. what type of lighting do TPG's use when grading coins? I noticed that this particular example is very bright white and shows great cartwheeling under florescent lighting, but under tungsten (regular light bulb) lighting, the luster isn't very pronounced and the coin just looks "dull".
     
  17. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    BTW, jerseycat, if you can tell that a coin has been dipped, then it's been over-dipped. Dipped properly, there are no signs (of dipping) at all.
     
  18. Dimefreak

    Dimefreak Senior Member

    your replies are always comical........find me some peace dollars for $10........the silver alone is worth $14!!!!
     
  19. stealer

    stealer Roller of Coins

    Scour eBay enough and you will stumble upon deals like this every once in a while. However not as cheap as $10, I did see someone selling 4 1921 Morgans at $12 each with free shipping.
     
  20. jerseycat10

    jerseycat10 Peace Dollar Connoisseur

    I disagree.

    Just the fact that the coin is blast white indicates a dipping. Especially peace dollars, which are prone to champagne toning. But luster is readily apparent in the images, despite the lackluster (pun intended) imagery.
     
  21. Numismatist47

    Numismatist47 New Member

    Starting today people like you hit the trash bin.

    Adios!
     
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