Grade this little toned Barber, if you please....

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Catbert, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    Take a swag at the assigned grade of this Barber Dime that is coming up on its 4th anniversary in my collection (purchased from dealer Glenn Holsonbake). Comment on whether you find the toning attractive or not. For those who may already know the grade, please don't spoil the fun! :)

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  3. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    What a beauty!

    I will say MS63 due to the cheek rub.
    Yes, the toning is VERY attractive.
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The toning is gorgeous. That sir, is a coin to stir the envy of collectors.
     
  5. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    It's gorgeous. I would guess MS64, but who the heck knows.
     
  6. Could be a 58, could be a 64...Hard to tell from photos alone.
     
  7. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Going solely from the photos (and that's always dangerous!), that appears to be a VERY attractive coin and one I would value about 64 money. In reality, I would not be surprised with anything from 58 to 65 on that coin.
     
  8. CBJesse

    CBJesse Capped Bust Fanactic

    I think its an MS64 and yes I find the toning very attractive.
     
  9. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Looks like a mint-state coin to me!

    The reverse toning is rather dark, and those hits on the cheek wouldn't have gone unnoticed on the grading table...

    So with this said, I'll say they gave it a 63. :thumb:
     
  10. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    LOVELY and artistic toning. LOVE the look of the coin. I am going to say lower level MS--around MS 62 looks about right to me.
     
  11. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    I have to say 63 maybe even 64 but the toning is fantastic. That is a coin to stir envy with :D
     
  12. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Here goes nothing..

    On the obverse I see some "chatter" on the cheek and jaw. There is a small scratch on the nose and a little nick. There are also some scratches in the fields to the right of her chin and mouth. There is also a scratch on her neck.
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    On the reverse, I see some sort of abrasion on the rims at 11, 3 and 4 o clock. There is a abrasion under the I in DIME, followed by some scratches next to it. There is another abrasion to the immediate 4 o'clock of the E in DIME. There is another one on the lower right of the ribbon.

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    With all this in mind, I would say MS63.
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Although it's tough to say what the points you circled look like in hand, I think that's a pretty solid analysis.

    The only thing I think you might have left out is PCGS' general dislike of deeply toned coins.

    They don't always like dark MS coins that look like this, in my experience.

    I think one could solidly justify a grade anywhere from 58 (for instance G might correctly argue there is some high point friction) to 64 (or the owner might correctly argue due to eye appeal) on this coin, depending on how it appears in-hand. Key question: Has the luster burnt out under the dark toning, i.e. crossed the line from pretty toning to luster-damaging corrosion? Can't really tell from a photo, but it doesn't appear so.

    Personally, I really like the look and originality of the coin, and would tend to value it on the high end of that scale, but I can certainly understand how someone else might disagree.

    I think it comes down to how you process this coin on the eye appeal scale.

    I'd rather have 1 coin like this rather than 10 one grade higher but completely untoned. But that's me, and I'm biased. :)
     
  14. theSharpGun

    theSharpGun The King

    AU 58 to MS 62. I'm going to guess it's a slider, so depending on the mood of the grader it might be higher or lower in that range. However this is just my opinion and I'm still learning so I won't be surprised if I'm completely off. Well good luck to all and Happy Holidays!!
    -theSharpGun
     
  15. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    SWAG: Scientific Wild Arse Guess.
    My SWAG is MS64
    And a true beauty at that.
     
  16. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    MS62 IMHO. No wear, but a lot of friction marks on the obverse.

    Lovely toning !
     
  17. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Well done Detacto, seems like you have learned a thing or two over the last year.

    I agree with the grade of MS-63 and love the toning.
     
  18. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    Some very astute analysis thus far and I thank all who have commented thus far. I will wait awhile longer to reveal the assigned grade to see if anyone else would like to comment.
     
  19. ddoomm1

    ddoomm1 keep on running

    I'll take a swag, MS-64
     
  20. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Possibly MS-63 but I'll stick with a 62. Beautiful coin though for sure.

    Bruce
     
  21. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    My thanks to all for providing a swag. It is in a PCGS 62 holder with a green CAC sticker. The scratches on the face and the reverse mark below the I in DIME are likely the reasons for the resultant grade. The coin does have a lot of eye appeal which is why I bought it.

    I am curious, if you'd like to continue to participate, as to how you would value this coin in today's market? I think many collectors don't like lower graded uncirculated common coins and so it might not go for any toning premium. What say you?
     
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