Grade this coin - '79 S Morgan

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by keh, Mar 26, 2006.

  1. keh

    keh Member

    This is my first post. Great site. I've already learned a lot by just browsing.

    I just aquired this coin. Its a '79 S Morgan. Once I've gotten some responses I'll post a little information about the coin that may be interesting.

    TIA

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  3. B12

    B12 Coin Hoarder

    Nice Morgan.I'd say it could go MS63,maybe 64.

    B12
     
  4. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I'd say its a solid 64
     
  5. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    I would say a 64 as well. Great detail
     
  6. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Welcome to the list. MS-64.

    Bone
     
  7. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Nice piece. I'd call it MS63+ or MS64-, and believe either number in a PCGS holder.
     
  8. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Nice pics, nice coin. But either I'm hungover from last night or there's [mechanical?] doubling in the date and stars east and west coast of date.
     
  9. nesvt

    nesvt Coin Hoarder

    I'll try MS64 PL.
     
  10. b.j.

    b.j. Senior Member

    I would say MS64
     
  11. Burks

    Burks New Member

    A 64 would not be out of the question. I'd put my money on that.
     
  12. keh

    keh Member

    Thanks for the replies guys! Your responses are about what I was expecting. I was hoping for an MS65 but I guess there are too many marks on the face. None of them are deep hits, more like a very light rub.

    However, here's the punchline. Check out the pic below. I believe it speaks for itself. This is my first encounter with SGS, and unfortunately, it was a costly mistake. I don't usually fall for things like this but it was late at night, I wasn't thinking straight, yada, yada, yada. It looked like a good coin, not MS67 good, but it wasn't selling for that much. As soon as I got it in the mail I knew it wasn't even MS65-MS66 quality. I'm no expert in coin grading, but it looks like a really good MS64 to me, not quite good enough for MS65 but better than my other legitimately graded MS64 coins.

    I sent an email to Abon asking for a refund. We'll see what happens.

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  13. keh

    keh Member

    Also, regarding the doubling comment, I think it looked that way because of the picture and a piece of dirt inside the slab. I've taken another picture of the area in question and circled the dirt.

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  14. keh

    keh Member

    Any comments on the SGS rating? I have an opportunity to return it, which I will probably do.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If you paid more than 64 money for it - return it. As for SGS - never buy another one unless you can see the coin in person and are confident in your own grading ability.
     
  16. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    In case you are wondering how much is a fair price for a 79-s, greysheet ask would be 49 dollars.
     
  17. keh

    keh Member

    Thanks again guys! I will be putting it in the mail today.
     
  18. cashelclan

    cashelclan New Member

    Coin is a 63 cleaned.Uncertifiable.
     
  19. keh

    keh Member

    How can you tell it was cleaned? What are the signs?

    By the way, I did return it and it was promptly relisted. Now its someone else's headache.
     
  20. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    That coin wasn't cleaned IMO.
     
  21. cashelclan

    cashelclan New Member

    Worked NGC for 3 years.Pretty much Ive come adapt to it.The high points and low points should never have similar handling marks.This coin does.In my eyes this coin would be sent back with green highlighter.Note:Never use unproven coin grading services as they exercise their right to slab your coin in any grade they want as for they are not liable legally because a coin grade is an opinion of ones own ability to grade a coin.I have the ability to grade coins as per higher industry standards and I make alot of money doing so in my private time.I can look at the reverse of about 90% of the Lincoln Cent collection and tell you the date without turning it over.Experience counts for a lot but it does no justice for the love of the hobby.How many times have you actually looked at that coin in your hand and thought about the history that particular piece may have had.Was it in the pocket of a man at the Battle of Gettysburgh or did Kennedy have it in his pocket when he was shot.Did one of our Presidents use it at one time or did some little Kid put it in a candy machine in the 1930s.A coin is as valuable as the desire of you to obtain it.If you want it because you can get it at a good deal then you are in the wrong field.And that my new friends seperates the coin collector from the coin investor.A little off track but I felt it had to be said.
     
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