Grade This 1917 SLQ

What grade do you think it is? I don't like what appears to be wear on the eagle's breast, but since I don't see that kind of wear on the obverse, it may be the photo or a weak reverse. Also, please state whether or not you think it's a full head (FH).

 

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It appears uncirculated to me. The details on the eagle's breast feathers still show, the details in the shield don't show any wear. It has some nice luster left, at least it appears to in the photos. There are however, some contact marks in the fields.
All details in hair are well defined; hair line along face is raised and complete; eyebrow is visible; cheek is rounded from what I can see in the photo.
So it fits the criteria for a FH designation.
I'm going to guess MS-63 FH.

 

will go with MS_64 (FH)

 

MS63 non-FH is my guess b/c the bottom part of her hair seems worn.

 

I disagree with those grades. Do you have another Photograph. I want to see the shield in close up and the right stone wall. BTW - this coin was dipped.

Ruben

 

Don't have another photo now - I'll post some when I receive the coin. Yeah, the coin was definitely dipped, but was it over dipped? Probably not if that luster is real.

The coin was advertised as a 63 FH - so, Racebannon must be the seller. lol The coin is "raw", so why is it raw? lol I paid way below the 63 FH price, so I'll probably keep it. What bothers me the most is the lack of the eagle's breast feathers, but we'll see how it looks in hand.

Any other opinions?

 

Well excuuuuuse me! :rollling: No more pics tho, so what's your grade sir!

StateQguy, I don't think it was overdipped but you won't be able to tell till you have it in hand and look under a magnifying glass.

 

Care to give us your guess...big fellah?

 

There isn't enough information on that photo. It can be a high MS coin, or an AU 50

Ruben

 

Its not the breast feathers that bothers me. the breast feathers only really show well on the best strikes and wouldn't be an issue unless the coin grades over MS65. What bothers me is that the dip might be hiding wear points that the photo doesn't show.


Also, look at the black marks around the stars. that isn't usually a good sign.
Ruben

 

Yeah, I noticed the black/brown around the devices on the reverse and have seen that when the dip isn't fully rinsed away. The lack of breast feathers just didn't seem right for the strength of the obverse strike - guess it could be a worn reverse die. But, then the rest of the feathers appear strong. I don't recall seeing dip hide wear - it usually makes the coin look more worn due to destroying luster. Another problem with those pics is the over exposure washes out Liberty's chest, among other details and may make the luster look better.

 

Asymmetry strike is common with the 1917 SLQ due to the strike process. The reverse was struck and not the hammer. Peace Dollars are similar in that respected. And the breast just did always fill in.

Ruben

 

anyway...I'm completely speculating that the coin couldn't be slabbed but I need a closer shot.

 

I'll agreed we're going to have to wait to see the coin in hand, but can't agree it could go as low as AU50. Take a look at the Au50 on the first page of this post.

http://www.cointalk.com/t129641/

 

Probably, as the seller could have got 3 times what I paid, if it were slabbed 63 FH. If the coin looks anything like the pics, I'll be happy with it not being slabbed. Just another example of how the TPG'ers pass on some beauties and slab some garbage.

 

You all seem to have decent SLQ grading skills. Don't want to hijack your thread SQ guy, but I've been looking for a mid grade 1923 s.

What are your opinions on the grade of this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280565744980&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

 

From the photos, I'd grade the coin 64 FH.

 

I'd need to pull out the ANA guild to accurately grade that coin on ebay - but I'd tell you this, I'd pass on it...

Ruben

 

I'm leaning that way if it isn't a problem coin, but I think the coin is a problem coin. Still need better pictures.

Ruben

 

eh - I stand by my assessment. I need a better photograph.