Grade Opinions Please On This Morgan

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  1. jaxsdad

    jaxsdad Curmudgeon Collector

    Hey everybody :hail:- been away for a bit ... nice to be back-

    I would like some opinions on what you think the grade of this Morgan is or what it would possibly grade as at PCGS.
    Any imput would be appreciated.
    Thanks-
     

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  3. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    MS-62/63 :hammer:

    Ribbit :smile
     
  4. HelloNewman

    HelloNewman Member

    I agree with the toad. Why is the date hidden?
     
  5. jaxsdad

    jaxsdad Curmudgeon Collector


    I believe that sometimes grades are swayed due to the date. Certain mints & dates just had better strikes. I just wanted an opinon that would be totally unbiased.

    Thanks-
     
  6. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

  7. Oldman

    Oldman New Member

    Im going to agree with AZ its MS 63. Possible PL are those pic taken in Black and White? Why is the date and mint mark blocked out?

    Did you block the date and Mintmak? If not It looks photoshopped.
     
  8. jaxsdad

    jaxsdad Curmudgeon Collector


    No, It doesnt have Pl fields (I wish) & the picture was taken in color with a 50W halogen light .

    Please see the above post on why I blocked the date - I will show the coins date in a bit.

    Thanks for posting.:eek:hya:
     
  9. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    Date and MM are part of the grading, it looks like an 81-s by the strike.

    MS-63 easy
     
  10. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I would grade it a 63, and I'm not giving it a bump for being a CC dollar.
     
  11. Oldman

    Oldman New Member


    Ok,, I thought it was a B/W pic, Some time's Black and White pics really wipe of PL feilds.
     
  12. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Judging on the picture, I agree with MS63.

    However, my Morgans always look worse in photos than in hand. Who knows ? Might pull a 4. Reverse looks nice.
     
  13. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    I'll retract that since the feathers don't look right for an 81-s.

    I guess its a P-mint, so I'll go 1885 ms-63.
     
  14. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    But then how can we give a correct grade? If the mintmark on this coin is an S then it might grade 63 because it had a nice strike, and that is normal, but if it was an O it would grade much higher because they are known for a weak strike and this would be alot better than normal. You can't give a grade without knowing date/mintmark.

    Speedy
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    But they are supposed to be biased based on date and mint.
     
  16. ctrl

    ctrl Member

    Guess the grade AND date/mintmark is even more fun.
     
  17. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    Is there a fingerprint or something on the neck?
     
  18. Oldman

    Oldman New Member

    I want to add to this, I dont care what year or mint mark is on a coin. I grade them as I see them. The only thing I take into consideration is if its a weak strike.
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    OK, and what do you do if the coin does have a weak strike but that date and mint is not known for having a weak strike ? Do you downgrade the coin or do you grade it without taking the weak strike into account ?
     
  20. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    There are lots of prints on it.
     
  21. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    I'll trade you a bunch of "S" mint Morgans for equal grade "O" minted ones.
    Using the Oldman (all coins equal) grading system, of course.
    :D
     
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