Grade opinions on this 1884-O Morgan dollar, please

Picked this up last week. The scan doesn't show the luster or cartwheels, but the coin looks very nice in hand. Strong contrast on the obverse. Weak strike. Partial fingerprint near Liberty's chin. Roller marks at center. I'm not sure how these affect the grade.

I'm not slabbing it. Just want to hear your opinions on the grade and any knowledge about how roller marks impact grading.

It's a VAM 30A with a triple '1', partial clashed 's', and O/O mint mark.

 

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I am not sure - I want to say AU, but in this case I really can't tell weak strike from wear. And it almost looks like it the hair above the ear and the eagle was rolled like you mention, but I do not know how it effects the coin. No matter what it is a interesting coin. Just my opinion of course.

 

MS-64??? Love the tone and powder look.

 

MS64 , the flat spots are from the die or hard roller marks. NICE VAM

 

Love it, very nice and original looking. Are those album slide marks that run horizontally?

 

A question for you - why AU? I am wondering about that roll effect. It looks kind of cool, but how does that effect the grade? I personally was not sure about wear, roll effect and the strike(since the O mint marks are usually weakly struck). Just wondering.

 

thanks for sharing. i cannot tell luster quality from the photo. the strike is weak even for a new orleans or it has been affected by additional wear on the high spots to make this an au coin. also look for luster breaks and wear on the rim. if, in hand, there is no break in the luster and would be unc., i would only go to 63 simply due to strike. it is still a beautiful coin, and an a very interesting vam. thank you again for sharing.....steve
btw: ' i previously had a similar 84. it had a similar strike w/ roller marks visible and w/ prooflike fields. mine was more baggy in the fields tho, than your appear to be. ngc had given it a 62 pl

 

gots to go ms62 typical weak strike of New Orleans

 

Nice coin. :thumb: I too like the "powder look" it has. MS63.

 

63

 

Great coin, and great pics. :thumb:

Phoenix

 

The rim is nicked in a few spots. I would say AU but it might just be the photo.

 

AU 63 is my grade.

Wouldn't surprise me to be in AU 58 or MS 63 plastic.

 

there si no AU 63 grade. brothe rleadfoot you have been studying too many coins

 

Makes perfect sense to me. A lot of AU coins can be described as, "if it wasn't for that tiny bit of wear, it would be MSxx."

 

You're probably right... :desk:

In case you're wondering, when I say AU 63, that means I think the coin is an AU coin that a TPG would grade 63 -- a "slider" if you will....Mike