Grade Opinions - 1879-S Morgan Dollar

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  1. bsshog40

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  3. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Believe me, TPG's will find the issues. I think it deserves MS-65 in my opinion. It's a keeper. Good luck
     
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  4. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    Wow. I was thinking MS64 at best. My worry is in the photo I almost think I see a tiny rub in the cap. But I don’t see it really in hand. So I wasn’t sure if it might grade out at AU58.

    It’s a lovely coin in hand.
     
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  5. capthank

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  6. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    IMO, the cotton blossoms and hair “bear claw” are the most sensitive areas for the very first indications of tiny wear (even though some others say look at the hair above her forehead). And those look pristine. And you know you have a really nice, solid strike when you can see the neck line crease just under her jaw and all the hair details above her ear.
     
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  7. Millard

    Millard Coindog

    Graded Morgans are great, I prefer raw coins for now. So is your goal to just collect a set of graded Morgans? or have you decided to focus on a specific grade and higher? You've got a real nice coin there and I'd guess 64 or maybe higher and at grey sheet thats a nice value versus the cost to grade. But there a quite a few Morgans at ms60 that are really fairly attainable too.
     
  8. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    I'd say 65...possibly 65+ depending on TPG and graders. To a comment on the cheek marks barring a 65 grade...don't think that bad for a 65 given other positive factors, plus have seen MUCH worse with 65 grades...again, graders, day, time, moods, etc...so terribly/wrongly subjective.
     
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  9. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I don't collect Morgans, but my opinion is 64
     
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  10. Anthony Mazza

    Anthony Mazza Active Member

    Nice original toning, and strike. Probably MS65.
     
  11. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    The range has been well discussed by others, but with the caveat that grading a coin by pictures alone is fraught above ms61, I think this compares well with other ms65's for the same date.
     
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  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    I do feel that the photos are very accurate to the coin in hand. I really spent some time getting good photos.
     
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  13. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    I wish I could take photos that good
     
  14. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    I learned how to do it from members here. It just takes practice.
     
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  15. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Do you own any graded coins? And have you ever submitted or had submitted on your behalf any coin for grading?
     
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  16. OldSilverDollar

    OldSilverDollar In the background Supporter

    I think the TPG would give it this...
    MS65+ at NGC
    MS66 at PCGS
    MS64+ at Anacs
    MS66 at ICG

    Me I think it's a strait 65 with no added PL designation given.
     
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  17. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    This coin will CAC at MS66.
     
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  18. Tusky Ranger

    Tusky Ranger Active Member

    I stopped buying raw coins after I bought an 1883-S. It was my first fairly pricey purchase and I decided to have it graded (cuz the seller seemed "shady" to me) and it came back as a "Unc details - cleaned". The seller is on both Etsy, USA Coin Book & probably Ebay. Luckily this was early on, and since then I've always bought a graded coin (and then removed it) from a TPG (PCGS,NGC,ANACS,ICG). As I neared the end (with the priciest examples) I started keeping them in the slabs as I then decided I wanted a graded set. I've sent 40 coins to ICG (not looking to start TPG wars lol) basically because of price and I have no intention of parting with the collection (I'll probably physically depart with it in the end lol). I re-bought some of my first purchases with higher grade coins rather than send them in; like an 1889, 1890, etc...they are cheap enough. Anywho...I did bring the "cleaned" coin to a local dealer and everyone is shop disagreed with the grade. Good luck with your collecting/grading. At some point I'll start looking for an 1893-S...I really need to research this one; it scares me to death with so many fakes out there! :)
     
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  19. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    Yes...and yes. I’ve just never submitted a Morgan.
     
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  20. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Do it.
     
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  21. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    I will. I’ve got several coins I want to submit. Trying to get everything organized first.
     
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