Got this 1960 in Change - Anything or just MD ?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by lillyboots, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. lillyboots

    lillyboots Member

    Besides it being a really nice 1960 that I got in change, it has something (I hope) going on? The Letters in "IGWT" appear really thick , as does the date.LIBERTY appears normal thickness. The "IGWT" does appear ,to me anyway ,to have some doubling but again it may be just the way I'm looking at it! Any thoughts would be appreciated, Thanks!!

    date 1960 (Large).jpg IGWT1960 (Large).jpg P1030865 (Large).JPG P1030866 (Large).JPG
     
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  3. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I can't see anything in your photos that looks unusual except it looks like the die that struck the coin may have been warped or bent a little from lots of use.If something is wrong with your coin it is hard to see in your photos.
     
  4. cciesielski01

    cciesielski01 Laced Up

    The numbers appear to have mdd so I'd assume its just mdd
     
  5. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    How does lots of use bend or warp a die? And what are the resulting characteristics that can be seen in a coin struck by that die?
     
  6. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    a coin die is like any other piece of metal but maybe much harder from heat treatment. after lots of use from pounding on coin planchets so much the die can become distorted and warped looking. the coins from a worn out die tends to show uneven areas on the fields of them. in front of Lincoln's face in your photo looks like it may have a sunken in area. this is what I was talking about. coins from worn out dies are really common and usually don't sell for more than a normal coin of that date.
     
  7. lillyboots

    lillyboots Member

    Thank you for the information. I hadn't even noticed the sunken in area on the face. Your info makes perfect sense to me. Thanks again!
     
  8. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    So you're talking about a WORN die and not a BENT or WARPED die, eh?
     
  9. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    just take your pick. either way it comes out to the same outcome. LOL
     
  10. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on


    Well, I guess it is somewhat instructive to see that's the way it works in your world.
     
  11. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Hopefully coins in your world are the same as in my world. I'm trying to help those that are wanting to learn a few things be able to learn. If you truely are interested in error coins you should be able to learn fast on the internet. back when I first got interested in error coins we did not have the internet.
     
  12. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    The problems with the dies in this era derived from the master dies being way, way overused, not the dies used to strike the coins themselves.
     
  13. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on


    Suggestion: look up the differences in cause and effect of:

    Warped or Buckled Die

    Bent die (probably you won't find this term)

    Sunken Die (die subsidence)

    Worn or late-die-state


    Think you'll find they are all not the same, and the resulting coins are not all the same either in their effects.
     
  14. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    all four things you mentioned here are nothing but damaged dies and this is caused from heavy use just like I said. anything will become damaged if we use it long enough. I think we all already know about that. just call it anything you want to as far as I'm concerned. how about die detoration then we all can understand,this covers all the bases.
     
  15. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Guess I'll have to disagree and not call a blue sky green. :smile
     
  16. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    LOL :dead-horse:
     
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