Golden Follis

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by KIWITI, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    Hi there!

    From time to time, you stumble upon a coin which has a "residual silvering" on its surface...may be if you are lucky, even a full silver coating. But some other times, there is neither silvering, neither any rests of it. Instead, there is an unusual (and often weak) "golden patina" (in lack of a better term).

    Well, this time I got something like that, a regular Maximinus II Daia follis, but remarkably fully golden.
    This made me wonder, why does this happens? Is it just a layer of some other material to apply the silvering on correctly or what?

    Thanks for your help.

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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Looks too golden almost to be toning. I wonder if someone plated it to pass off as a sollidus in antiquity? Electroplating was known to the ancients. The Parthians invented it with chemical batteries electrically coating objects in silver or gold.
     
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  4. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I agree.
    Golden toned silvering has a different look to it

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  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Very interesting coin. Perhaps it is a kind of toning that occurs with the silvering that has survived over the millennia?
     
  6. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I did have a coin with a very silvery, slightly golden toning and this was thought to be a coin that had potentially been re-silvered, perhaps in the Victorian period when it was quite fashionable to do this.

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  7. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    I'm not a chemist so I dont know what causes it, but I have seen many over the years with the same tone, and almost always with late Roman.
     
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  8. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    Perhaps this is the answer.
    This coin belonged to an old friend who inherited most of his ancients from his grandfather, a numismatist who helped with the cataloguing of Vittorio Emanuelle III´s coins collection, right in the 19th. century.
     
  9. Suarez

    Suarez Well-Known Member

    I've never come across a follis like this. If it has been plated chances are essentially 100% that it was done in modern times as a coating this thin would have broken up in the ground.

    Another possibility is that the coin was made from a brassy alloy. It's possible but I think unlikely.
     
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