Here is one which ended in a FeedBack standoff at least until the Ebay seller got NARU'd and I had to apply for a refund thru PayPal. This happened 6 or 7 months ago, I'd purchased an Eagle from a seller who traded in them and had been doing so with success for several years. Yes, the price of gold had indeed gone up, but so did the cost of Eagles and other gold coins across the board. Anyhow, after winning the auction and pay immediately JUST like the auction stipulates, actually beating the invoice from the seller, but I can add and always buy the insurance. My wait begins w/o any acknowledgement from the seller of my payment, but this guy dealt gold by the POUND so there was no need to bug them with trivial e-mail. At the two week point I send an e-mail asking the status of the shipment. Seller responds politely asking for particulars so they can check the status. Five days later e-mail sent again asking for the status. Seller e-mails back (almost immediately) that they're sorry but have never sent out the coin, a shipping SNAFU. If I want it now it will be $X more due to the gold price increase. The standoff begins with the end result being the seller getting a new Ebay handle and me a PayPal generated refund. Yesterday, I receive a package postmarked 27 Jan 06 and inside is a 1881 Eagle. One I SHOULD have received a long time ago but didn't. 2 Feb 06, 7:15 AM MST. No e-mail response from the seller or phone call returned from the ones I placed yesterday??? I CAN'T keep this as I've already gotten a PayPal refund and this obviously is a screw-up by the Ebay Company I dealt with a LONG time ago... Quandary Bone
You're right, it would be bad karma to keep the coin without paying for it, so why not resend them payment for the amount that won the auction? Isn't that what you wanted to start with?
Tough place to be from a moral standpoint. Is it undeniably the exact coin you purchased earlier? If so, send them the exact amount in a USPS Money Order with no buyer identification, in an envelope with no return address. Let them see how it feels.
Bone, that is a cruddy deal on their part. You just can't conduct business like that. I tend to want to agree with what karrlot said. The only thing is that it may get kind of messy...so maybe you just want to try to arrange to send the coin back. Pain in the butt either way.
If you send it to me, I will pray for your forgiveness and ask for the Lords intercession on your behalf:bow: Yes, as the others noted go with your conscience and either send the original $ amount or return the coin. I think I would send the $ and keep it, since gold is worth more now.
Well guys, I took your advice and have purchased a M/O for the original price of $219 and will mail it off to them B
GOLD distroyed a long time friendship of a trusted friend 20 years ago. I used to dredge for gold with my dad. We did it for fun and the hobby got us out of the house and into the great outdoors. We had a close friend that bugged both of us for years to tag along on one of our trips. It was a father - son thing but we finally included him. He was not wealthy but far from broke. During the next trip we found aprox $40.00 in gold at our favorite spot within the first 2 hours dredging. We kept the gold in small viles and would add to it every time we shut down the dredge. Yep you guessed it, the vile suddenly disapeared. Dad and I knew exactly what happened and our friend was never invited along on any future trips. A few weeks later we found out that he had been showing around a vile with gold in it from other friends. If he would have asked we would have given the gold to him as a souvenir of the trip, but he had to steal it. there by ending a long friendship.
When I was in school I had a small vial of gold that I had purchased from a friend. Not long afterwards it disappeared. Fast forward 15 years later and I am cleaning through a relatives house after they died. I found my small vial of gold. They had pilfered it. At least now I have it back.
Good man, Bone. Feels right, doesn't it? Moreover, this seller will get to see that there are still some honest people in the world.....
My personal vote is to pay him exactly the auction winning price plus the agreed upon shipping and handling. By money order, without your name or return address, and send it from a different city than where you live. Sounds fair enough to me... I hate it when either buyers or sellers try to get out of the terms of a concluded auction, especially since it's supposedly a legally binding contract. If you keep the coin and pay the originally agreed upon price I can't see how he'd have any legal recourse against you.
gold Looks good ,it has typical gold bagmarks, but the wear looks minimal if any from the pics. I would definitaly keep the coin and pay the seller. Good find.:thumb:
Yes, thanks. BTW, the two calls and one e-mail I sent (1 Feb 06) the seller haven't been returned either. Just gotta figure out a way to explain the $219 money-order to the wife B
That's easy! Don't waste her time with the small details (like the first half of the story). "This company sent me this gold coin in the mail. I wasn't even expecting it. Crazy, I know. I'm an honest man, so what could I do but send payment for it?"
