Germanicus Dupondius minted by Caligula

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  1. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    I have always liked the following Dupondius:

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    This is a rather nice, but certainly not an exceptional, example of this dupondius minted by Caligula to honor his father, Germanicus. It is unusual in that the inscriptional lettering is entirely horizontal. I do not see this coin featured very often. Please post pics of your own examples.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I've always liked that type too & I am not one for memorial ancients much.

    My only Germanicus

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    Germanicus, with Divus Augustus (15 B.C. - 19 A.D.)
    AR Drachm
    CAPPADOCIA, Caesarea
    O:GERMANICVS CES TI AVGV COS II PM, bare head of Germanicus right.
    R: DIVVS AVGV-STVS, radiate head of Augustus left.
    3.23g
    16.5mm
    RPC I 3623a; cf. Sydenham, Caesarea 50; RIC I 61; BMCRE 106

    The date of this issue remains uncertain. RPC places it late in Tiberius' reign, circa 33/4 AD, while the traditional dating, adopted by RIC and Sydenham, place's it in the first year of Caligula's reign, 37/8 AD.
     
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  4. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    This is certainly not the prettiest of coins, and the engraver clearly did not pay attention in his classes on the fine art of letter carving. However, I do like it as a link to the early history of the Empire.
    Germanicus Caligula.jpg
    Germanicus, father of Gaius (Caligula), died 19 AD, Æ As, struck AD 37-38 under Caligula, 37-41 AD
    Obv: GERMANICVS CAESAR TI AVGVST F DIVI AVG N, bare head of Germanicus left
    Rev: C CAESAR AVG GERMANICVS PON M TR POT, legend around large S C
    Ref: RIC I (second edition) 35 (Gaius)
    Note: Gaius was the youngest and only surviving son of Germanicus and Agrippina. He became emperor at only 25 years of age, and lacking experience, he emphasizes his dynastic right to lead.
     
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  5. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    This is not a very good example, but, it is a Germanicus like the one above.
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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Mine was cheaper because some previous owner painted 47 on it. I'm OK with that.
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  7. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I could go with that. Otherwise a very nice example.
     
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  8. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Doesn’t bother me one bit - I like it.
     
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  9. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

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  10. Alwin

    Alwin Well-Known Member

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    GERMANICUS, AS

    Rome, 40-41 (struck under Caligula)
    10,10 g - 28 mm
    S 1822 - C 4 - RIC 50 (Caligula)
    GERMANICVS CAESAR TI AVG F DIVI AVG N, Bare head left
    C CAESAR DIVI AVG PRON AVG PM TR P IMP PP, around large S C


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    GERMANICUS, AS
    Rome, 42 (struck under Claudius)
    10,84 g - 28 mm
    S 1904 - C 9 - RIC 106 (Claudius)
    GERMANICVS CAESAR TI AVG F DIVI AVG N, Bare head right
    TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG GERM PM TR P IMP PP, around large S C
     
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  11. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Some nice Germanicuses in this thread. How's about a Provincial? I rather like the "Julio-Claudian" portrait on this one:

    Germanicus - Sardes, Lydia Athena standing  Aug. 2018.jpg
    Germanicus Æ 16
    Roman Prov. - Sardes, Lydia
    (d. 19 A.D., c. 19-41 A.D.)
    Mnaseas, magistrate.

    ΓEΡMANIKOΣ KAIΣAΡ, Bare head left /ΣAΡΔIANΩN MNAΣEAΣ, Athena standing left, holding patera, resting hand on shield; spear behind to right.
    RPC 2993; BMC 113.
    (3.26 grams / 16 mm)
     
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  12. Romancollector

    Romancollector Well-Known Member

    Great coin @jamesicus !

    I do not have a dupondius of Germanicus, but I do have an as struck under Claudius.

    Germanicus
    AE As
    Germanicus ae as.png
    Date: AD 42-43, struck under Claudius
    Obv: GERMANICVS CAESAR TI AVG F DIVI AVG N, bare head right.
    Rev: TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG GERM P M TR P IMP P P around large SC.
    Diameter: 29mm
    Weight: 9.70 grams
    Mint: Rome
    RIC I 106 (Claudius)
    Ex: CNG, Benito Collection
     
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  13. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    My only, humble example was minted by Claudius:
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    Germanicus
    Grandson of Augustus
    Bronze As
    Rome mint, A.D. 50-54
    Obv: GERMANICVS CAESAR TI AVG F DIVI AVG N
    Rev: TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG P M TR P IMP PP, encircling SC
    RIC (Claudius) 106
    29mm, 10.5g.
     
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  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Such a wonderful type!

    In Imperials I have only this As of Germanicus from a large mixed lot.

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    Germanicus
    assassinated October 10, 19 AD
    struck 42/43 AD under Claudius, Rome mint
    AE As, 30mm
    Obv: bare head right; GERMANICVS CAESAR TI AVG F DIVI AVG N
    Rev: TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG GERM P M TR P IMP P P around large SC
    Ref: RIC I 106 (Claudius); Sear5 #1905; Cohen 9; BMC 241
     
  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Herr G:

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    RI Germanicus AE As 27mm struck under Caligula- S-C
     
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  16. Limes

    Limes Well-Known Member

    Nice coin @jamesicus! And that's your hand writing?

    Also not a dupondius, but an As. I don't think the dupondius is very scarce, but the As is more common. Also, I think the dupondius is the more wanted coin, in comparison with the As. I undertand that, because it's a very interesting design.

    Not how the letters on the obverse seem to be cropped together more at the end. As if the die maker realised he was running out of space.
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  17. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Thank you @Limes. I wrote the description in my version of a 16th century Chancery cursive hand that I was actually not very fond of and have seldom used since. That was about thirty years ago - I no longer own the coin, and haven’t for many years, but this was the only photo I could find of it in my archives. It was part of a failed project of mine to make a more attractive (eye catching) display of featured coins at a local coin show. It didn’t work very well - it took too long to make up the cards and they took up too much space:

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    To the coin: I have always liked this Dupondius very much and was hoping CT members here would post their examples of it. I love to see coins that show evidence of circulation and use (naturally patinated) - to me they are true historical artifacts - if I want to see photos of pristine (uncirculated) examples I can view plates in books.

    Doug has posted an example that has a much nicer depiction of the quadriga with Germanicus than mine.
     
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  18. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Beautiful example! I have always wanted one, but haven't been able to justify it to myself just yet since I have been focusing on portraits mostly.

    My examples:

    I have this one as a lifetime issue from Sardes in Lydia, although that is somewhat up for debate as Mnaseas appears on these coins of Germanicus, coins of Nero, and pseudo-autonomous civic issues, but not on coins of Caligula or Claudius, indicating perhaps two different magistrates of the same name? Germanicus is tricky to hunt a lifetime portrait for - as he was given extensive posthumous honors, often without changes to titulature.
    Germanicus AE16 sardes lydia mnaseas.jpg

    This one is definitely posthumous, minted by Caligula - I bought it for the cheap portrait of Agrippina I
    (Aezanis, Phrygia)
    Germanicus and Agrippina aezanis phrygia posthumous.jpg

    An an imperial As or Dupondius, minted by Claudius
    Germanicus AE as under claudius.jpg
     
  19. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Mine, the one that looks like a blank, was in a batch of uncleaned coins. I thought it was just a blank too, or very worn coin. But, thanks to the good folks here on CT, it was identified as a Germanicus.
     
  20. Ignoramus Maximus

    Ignoramus Maximus Nomen non est omen.

    Hi @jamesicus.

    Here's my example of the dupondius. It's not as nice an example as the other specimens, but at least it's battle-scarred. 388D.jpg 388R.jpg
     
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    jamesicus Well-Known Member

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