Georgius the 4th - what have I got here . . . . . ?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by ZoidMeister, Mar 10, 2021.

  1. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Well, all I can say is I got it cheap - real cheap. Not sure what it is, how to attribute?

    Many things with this one raise question marks. I cannot "cross the 'I's or dot the 'T's" with this one.

    What say you? What be it?

    Fear not at insulting me . . . . . . you cannot hurt my 'feelings', I don't have any . . . . .

    Z



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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    It looks like a jetton or some other type of copy of a crown.
     
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  4. norantyki

    norantyki CoinMuncher

    If it is sovereign sized, it might be a gaming counter, or alternatively a Greek 'new year' token - the latter are often baked into bread / mounted as a charm. They are typically styled crudely after British sovereigns, and generally struck in brass.
     
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  5. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    I have had these many times here in the UK. Not entirely clear what purpose, if any, they had but gaming counter or souvenir token probably covers it. Brass, pretty common and no great value despite their age.
     
  6. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Nicer than any of my sovereigns... haha
    I like it.
     
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  7. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Yeah, it's brass, about 27mm, I haven't weighed it yet.

    What struck me as "odd" is the almost cud sized thickness of the upper rim, the obvious size differential in the font of the first G in GEORGIUS, and the fact that they enumerated "4" in roman numberals as "IIII" instead of the proper "IV."

    If there were enough of these around, I figured someone might be able to "date" it. I'm not relying on the date displayed.

    I bought it because I'm a St. George fan . . . .

    Z
     
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  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    They used both IIII and IV for Georgie the Fourth.
    I too am a St. George fan and if it was cheap enough I may have jumped on it too :)
     
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  9. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    All the ones I have seen have been crudely made with uneven rims. Quite often they have a mounting loop, although I am not sure these were originally intended as medallions.
     
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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Just on a guess, I’d say it was very likely still a 19th century item, though perhaps Victorian and thus not quite as early as George IV. Sure, not a terribly valuable piece, but still cool. “Gaming token” is how I would categorize it as well. “Jeton” would be another catch-all term that would be accurate enough, too, I reckon.
     
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