Can I get some help? I cannot find any information on this coin. It is a 1811 in fairly poor condition. Thanks in advance for any help.
Help on a Georgious III Dei Gratia Rex 3 Shilling coin. I cant find this coin anywhere. Does anyone know what this thing is or is it a fake? It is minted 1811 and has a Bank Token 3 shill 1811 on the back. Help please.......
Nice posting cholmes. I really enjoyed reading that. Now the big question is what block does bcardinal live on for I would care to take a stroll down that street. Hope you enjoy the forum bcardnal. Sorry but I can't help you but there seems to be alot of experts on shillings and Great Britian coinage on this site who I'm sure will in a bit.
You can find the coin listed in Krause Mischlers `Standard Catalogue of World Coins - 1801 -1900' under Great Britain and under `token issues' (go visit your library. They may have a copy). As to it's value...all depends on what you mean by fairly poor condition. My catalogues value it around the $10 - $15 mark in fine condition (that is, worn but still clear / not heavily damaged condition). If the coin really is in poor condition, it may well be worth its weight in silver as a conversation piece, but sadly little else.
Ian,the Coincraft catalogue also lists the 1/6 & 3/- coins.There were also ones for Jersey.I have got the Jersey 3/- piece,but I have never been able to get the British 3/- piece.
You are one up on me with the Jersey 3/-. That one has always eluded me (at a price I can afford). There are two different issues of the B of E 1/6 and 3/- tokens. One (1811 and 1812) has bust and shoulders of Geo III the other (issued 1812-16) has a large bust. Both types have been fairly readily available in the UK but maybe that has changed of late with the general rise in price of UK coinage. I don't know as it has been some time since I bought any UK coins. The era of token coinage in the UK is a fascinating one, what with the `Conder' halfpennies and pennies and silver tokens (6d's and shillings); the `official' silver tokens issued by the Bank of England; the Jersey silver tokens; the very hard to come by Isle of Man silver tokens; and of course the Bank of Ireland tokens. One of my favourite coins in my collection is the Irish 6/-. Even though it is struck over an 8 reale coin, it has a charm to it that the Bof E 5/- lacks. (to be sure!)
Ian,a few years ago,I was unknowingly sold a forgery of the Irish 6/- piece.The guy I bought it off took it back,so I got some banknotes from British Commonwealth countries as a replacement.He himself was unaware that he had sold me a dud.
I'd be interested to learn how you determined the coin as being a fake / what the indicators were (if you can remember). I must say that although i've come across fake B of E 5/-, and faked counterstamped coinage before now (genuine host coins but faked counterstamp) I haven't seen a fake B of I 6/- before. I don't doubt in the slightest that they exist. I just haven't found one yet.
It was an expert who is a member of the Wanganui Numismatic Society who detected that it was a dud.He told me that the weight of the piece was lighter than it should be,which was the main indicator that it was a dud.
