Fresh Items

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by stainless, Apr 24, 2010.

  1. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    well, not fresh, they're very old..but my newest items from todays show.



    First one..is not a coin, but is half a bronze shot mold with a lead bullet, from the balkans (18-19 Cent)



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    Next, is not a coin either, but a lead wool-bale seal with makers mark, from Sicily (17 cent)




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    and the (AHEM) MOJO! This piece is so cool (and is kind of a coin, lol)

    Jerusalem, XII-XIII AD
    Cut Gold Fragment (0.20 grams)
    Met 264-333

    NOw, the story on these: Firstly, these are very scarce. These originally had Islamic writing on them, but the Crusaders copied them and minted their own, and (the Crusader Officials) cut them up into pieces such as these. (or at least that's how I think it goes, if I am wrong someone please correct me, as I want to get the story correct for attribution purposes).





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    Hope y'all enjoyed the newps.


    stainless
     
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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Those are pretty cool!
     
  4. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    I'll share my "not a coin" too :D its not ancient either lol

    but I got the narly antique lamp
     

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  5. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Love the gold fragments, did you get those from feebay?

    Oh, I got it now, you got em from today's show. Nice pick-up[s guys!
     
  6. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS


    the MSNS show here. I went today, so I got all the good stuff :D


    stainless
     
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    You might find interest here:
    http://www.britishmuseum.org/explor...ects/cm/f/fatimid_dinar_and_a_crusader_b.aspx

    I have plenty of trouble attributing Islamic coins when they are whole so I can't comment on the Jerusalem, XII-XIII AD attribution but this does appear to be a small piece of a large gold coin with Arabic writing between concentric circles so your attribution seems very believable to me. There are thousands of types over several hundred years. In the history of coinage most issues seem to have been made in denominations but some just certified the metal purity and would have been weighed out at the time of a transaction. These gold coins would have been a lot of money so I can see the need for small change like this piece. Neat item!
     
  8. FrankPlantagenet

    FrankPlantagenet New Member



    How much did u pay for the gold fragment.
     
  9. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS


    $125. Which seems fair compared to the very few I've seen online, and mine is better than any of the examples (I have seen) that are of the same type.


    stainless
     
  10. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Some great old pieces you have there :) What is that mold for??
     
  11. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Seems fairly clear:

    Very nice pieces Anthony! I quite like the gold fragments. Hope you'll add your attribution when you finish that aspect of the acquisition
     
  12. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    Some really nice history you obtained. :thumb:
     
  13. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    Thanks All!

    Update: My attribution on the gold is correct. - bu I edited it to be more in depth.

    Also, to elaborate on the bronze mold shot, there would be another half to it, they would close and one would pour the material inside the hole on top, and you would get the musket bullet that is in the picture. Sucks that I don't have both sides, but I got it at a decent price.

    stainless
     
  14. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    Okay all, I found some more info on the gold piece:

    " The extroardanary and puzzling fact about these cut gold pieces is that no complete coin has ever been found. Furthermore, it is not clear what their function may have been. Metcalf has conjectured that they may have been used as offering pieces by pilgrims."

    Jaroslav Folda, Crusader Art in the Holy Land, From the Third Crusade to the Fall of the Acre, 1187-1291. PP 84

    stainless
     
  15. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    This is referring to the ones with Latin legends, yours has Arabic legends.
     
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