Fractional follis of Constantine

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  1. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Fractional folles, sometimes called "quinarii," were minted c. 290 to c. 326. Most have vota types. There are over 200 varieties, but most varieties are very rare and, in total, they are rare. Many are remarkably small at c. 14-13 mm and others are larger at c. 18-17 mm. Here is one of Constantine as Caesar.

    Constantine1VOTISXfraction2023.jpg
    18-17 mm. 1.98 grams.
    FL VAL CONSTANTINVS N C
    VO/TIS/X in wreath.
    Struck as Caesar, summer 307.
    RIC Trier 750. Sear IV 15576. Zschucke 7.13.

    I have a web page on fractions: http://augustuscoins.com/ed/VOTA/fractions.html
    This coin was added to it this week.

    Show us some fractions!
     
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  3. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I am very new at this. I would like to get better. Here is one VOT that is 14.2 mm.
    VOT 1A.jpg VOT 1B.jpg
     
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  4. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Here's the smaller version. It ain't a beauty like some on your page, but I'm pleased to have it!

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    Trier RIC VI 912, VOT / X / MVL / XX. 14mm, 1.01g.

    A few of these have appeared lately as a collection is gradually sold off. ("The Tetrarchy Collection." Anybody know who that is?)
     
  5. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    @Valentinian Are all of the subject pieces (Fractional Follis) produced in silver only?
     
  6. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    That's a different issue, from much later, for Constans and Constantius II, c.347-8.

    No, they are very-low-value coins made of copper.
     
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  7. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Thank you. I have quite a few of these and hope to be able to get to know each of them personally.
     
  8. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    A later one from Constans 337-350 AD

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  9. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    I asked my dog what he thought of the condition of this coin . . .
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    . . . and he said: "Rough, rough, rough!"

    Constantine I ("the Great")
    1/4 quarter nummus
    Treveri (Trier) mint, A.D. 307-308
    RIC 791
    Obv: IMP CONSTANTINVS P F AVG
    Rev: VOT/X/AVG/N, within wreath
    No mint mark
    13 mm, 0.8 g.
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    My AE Quinarii from this Era are not Votive... Do you know more about these, @Valentinian ? (I have King's Quinarius book, but it is not near me now...)

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    Constantius I Chlorus 293-306 AD
    Bronze Quinarius (16 mm ; 1.41 gm)
    Thesalonika mint 317-318 AD
    Obv: DIVO CONSTANTIO PIO PRINCIPI ; Laureate, bearded, and veiled head, right
    Rev: REQVIES OPTIMORVM MERITORVM ; Constantius seated left on curule chair raising right hand and holding scepter.
    Mintmark : .TS.B.
    RIC vol VII #25 Thesalonika (R5)
    Ex: Vaughn


    RI Allectus 293-296 AE Quinarius London Virtus Galley AE17 2-3g S 13870 RIC 55.JPG
    RI
    Allectus 293-296
    AE Quinarius London Virtus Galley AE17
    London, CE 294-296
    16.9 x 18.2 mm 2.31 grams.
    Radiate head of Allectus right, with IMP C ALLECTVS P F AVG around
    Galley left with VIRTVS AVG around, the mint mark QL below
    SEAR 13870. RIC 55.
    Ex: Calgary Coins
     
  11. JulesUK

    JulesUK Well-Known Member

    Wow, something else to learn! Isn`t this hobby amazing.
    So am I right in thinking that generally Fractions are small (AE 12-14mm), from Trier mint and mainly VOTIS reverses?
    So, I have an AE 18mm Constantine I, Trier mint, Reverse with BEAT TRANQVILLITAS, Altar inscribed with VO-TIS XX - This wouldn`t be a Fraction, correct?

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  12. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    The above coin is not a fraction, it's a regular nummus, a.k.a. follis.

    But there were other fractions issued during Constantine's reign. Here's an example of a half nummus from Rome:
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    Rome mint, A.D. 312-313
    RIC 356
    Obv: FL VAL CONSTANTINVS AVG
    Rev: PACI P-ERPET - Pax, standing facing, head left, holding branch and standard
    RQ in exergue; XII in left field
    19 x 16 mm, 2.0 g.

    There were others, too. I'm sure other members have fractions to show JulesUK. Let's see them, everyone.
     
  13. David@PCC

    David@PCC Well-Known Member

    Constantine has a quite a few types smaller than a follis.
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    Constantine I
    Rome mint
    313 AD
    AE 1/4 Follis
    Obvs: IMP CONSTANTINVS PF AVG, Bare head facing right.
    Revs: SAPIENTIA PRINCIPIS, Owl standing left on altar, shield, spear and helmet around. RT
    14mm, 1.20g
    RIC HC V 178
     
  14. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Correct.

    There are more unusual denominations in that era than you might first think from looking a many coins from Diocletian through Constantine. The folles and later AE3's are so common that the scarcer denominations can be overlooked. @gsimonel and @David@PCC showed nice later fractions of Constantine which do not belong to the series of the OP coin. One obvious difference is that the fractions from Trier (and a few other mints) do not have mint marks and are mostly vota types.

    After Diocletian's coin reform of c. 294 there were more than a dozen mints issuing the same very common types: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI and later, SACRA MONETA AVGG ET CAESS NOSTR. But it was not long before some mints distinguished themselves with different types and unusual denominations, such as the so-called quarter follis, minted only at Siscia. The "fractions" like the OP coin were formerly attributed almost entirely to Trier, but there is find-spot evidence they were minted (in very low numbers) at other mints too.

    Also, @Alegandron showed coins sometimes called "quinarii" that are not of the usual denominations. There is some question about what they should be named. The Allectus has a "Q" on it. Does that make it a quinarius? King's book on Roman Quinarii does not include it and the type and fabric have little in common with other quinarii. So, what does the "Q"mean? Who knows?

    I think it is great fun to pick up a coin which is different.

    Here is a fraction of Crispus:

    CrispusFractionVOTVCAESSNN800.jpg

    Crispus. 16 mm. 2.22 grams.
    FL IVL CRISPVS NOB CAES
    VOT/V/CAESS/NN

    Zschucke 14.18, the last issue. He says it is for July 25, 320 and calls this fraction "1/4".
    RIC VII Trier 339 "r5" "321-2".
     
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