Hello everyone. I thought I'd post some recent fourrees I acquired. If anyone has a fouree they are proud of or just want to post please do. I bought these fourees due to the expense involved in getting an 'official' minted coin even though I hope to eventually get official versions of most if not all Caligula Julius Caesar lifetime Tiberius
Hadrian Fourée Denarius Roma 134-38 AD Hadrian & FelIcitas14 viewsReference. cf RIC 237a Obv: HADRIANVS AVG COS III P P. Bare head right. Rev: FELICITAS AVG. Hadrian and Felicitas clasping hands. 2.86 gr 17 mm
Hadrian Fourée Denarius 124-28 AD Eagle left Eastern mint Reference, Cf. RIC II 191 (different obverse legend); cf. BMCRE 442 (same); cf. RSC 430 (same) Obv. IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG Laureate head right, draped on left shoulder. Rev. COS III Eagle standing on thunderbolt, head turned left 2.34 gr 18 mm
..fourree's(seems like too many r&e's) are collectible in their own right and i think every coin collection should have at least one or two examples.. ..fourrees of Augustus
The Julius Caesar fourrée is particularly nice. May I ask whether you are planning to clean it, and if so, how? Here is a Republican fourrée I bought because I wanted to have a closer look at a serrated fourrée: Prototype: Roman Republic, moneyer C. Naevius Balbus, denarius serratus, 79 BC, Rome mint. Obv: Diademed head of Venus right, SC behind. Rev: Victory in triga right, C NAE BALB in exergue. Ref: Crawford 382/1. 16mm, 3.11g.
My favorite fourree of Hadrian is my brockage. See: Campbell, Greek and Roman Plate Coins. http://numismatics.org/digitallibrary/ark:/53695/nnan10308 I am also fond of my Byzantine gold over a silver core. I believe my earliest is this 1/3(?) siglos (Type II) of Persia c.505-480 BC. There are earlier ones including Croesids (want list item). I guess I agree but having one or two hundred seems a bit excessive. I have been disposing of some so I don't have as many as I once did. I bought a collection of Roman fourrees c.1990 from the estate of a friend but the dealer handling the sale thought his Greek fourrees would do well in a higher level auction so would not make a deal for the group. I still wonder whatever became of those coins over the years.
Here are a few I like. Caligula & Augustus denarius, cf. RIC 2 TOD + bird denarius - cf. Cr. 141/1. Interestingly, the solid silver coins have a smaller wren-like bird on the reverse while (all of the?) fourrées have this larger raven-like bird. Todillus is the Latin for wren (or at least some small bird) and so was probably related to the TOD legend, but the forger changed the bird and so the pun was lost. Apparently, there are several dies with these larger birds. Sulla's Dream denarius - cf. Cr. 480/1. This has a provenance back to 1913 and I don't know if I could afford a better solid silver one! Anyway, let's see some more! ATB, Aidan.
From what I can tell in hand, it doesn't seem to need cleaning. I have been soaking it in distilled water for a time to counter act the possibility of bronze disease. As a matter of fact, it's soaking as I type this.
Famous last words of Sallent, to be used on me when I cave and purchase a fourree, and try to backtrack and deny I ever said these words at some future date: "Mark my words, I will never ever own a fourree. Never! I would rather eat my shoes than pay for the work of an ancient conman."
How many examples of this coin have you seen in fourree? Looking at the few on acsearch, there seems to be a good variety of bird sizes on solid coins but it is quite possible that some of these are undiscovered fourrees. It is an interesting discovery.
I'm away from it at the moment, but a couple of years ago I made a spreadsheet of all examples on acsearch and elsewhere that I found. If I recall correctly, there was only one of correct weight with a larger bird, but it may be a couple of days before I can check. I've read (where?) that there are multiple fourrée dies with larger birds. The theory on the small bird is that the name puns with TOD, but maybe not all the die cutters were birdwatchers! I'll get back with the numbers I found when I can dig them up. Aidan.
A few of my favourite fourrées. The Gallienus is possibly the latest known from the 3rd century crisis. More details here: https://www.amcoinscanada.com/blog/2018/8/22/fourrees
Some of my fouree coins: TITUS Fouree Denarius OBVERSE: CAES VESPAS AVG TR P COS III, Laureate head right REVERSE: Foreparts of two capricorns springing in opposing directions, supporting round shield inscribed S C; globe below Struck at Rome, 80/1AD 3.06g, 18mm RIC II 357 (Titus); RSC 497 JULIA DOMNA Fouree Denarius OBVERSE: IVLIA PIA FELIX AVG, draped bust right REVERSE: DIANA LVCIFERA, Diana standing left, holding long torch with both hands Struck at Rome, 211-217 AD Struck under Caracalla 3,1 g; 18,3 mm RIC 373A [Caracalla] M. VOLTEIUS M.F. ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS VOLTEIA AR Fouree Denarius OBVERSE: Laureate & helmeted bust of Attis right; shield behind REVERSE: Cybele seated right in chariot drawn by two lions; OQ above Rome 78BC 2.9g, 18mm Cr385/4; Syd 777, Volteia 4 A PLAUTIUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS PLANCIA AR Fouree Denarius OBVERSE: Turreted hd of Cybele right, A PLAVTIVS before, AED CVR SC behind REVERSE: supplicant offerng palm-branch, camel behind; IVDAEVS before, BACCHIVS below Rome 55 BC 18mm, 3.2g Cr431/1, Syd 932, Hendin 741, Plautia 13
My Brutus is related but different and fourree, too. It was $45 but that was before there were Euros.
