Found These in My Basement.... Need Some Info!

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  1. Urban_Lawyer

    Urban_Lawyer Half dollar nerd

    Hello,

    I was cleaning my basement out (house built in the 1890s) and I found these in an old mason jar with some nails, bolts, and other odds and ends! I am mainly a currency and half dollar collector so I have absolutely ZERO knowledge on Large Size Cents.

    What do you guys think? The dates are 1833, 1852, 1856, and the worn-smooth one on the bottom is 1801. Do these years have any interesting die variations I should look for? I figure in their conditions they aren't worth more than a couple of dollars a piece.

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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Not sure of the worth of these pieces but I'd sure as heck drop my jaw if I ever found something like this. Accolades dear fellow. Hope what you found is significant. The community (sure as the devil) will chime in. :)
     
  4. Urban_Lawyer

    Urban_Lawyer Half dollar nerd

    My house is definitely interesting. I looked into the history of it and found out the builder and original owner was named William Fowler. I even was about to find a photo of him. (My wife won't let me print it and frame it... she thinks it would be creepy). He was a lawyer in town just like me, and I was even able to pull some of his cases from the 1890s and 1900s to see his level of expertise, way of thinking, etc. Pretty neat.
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  5. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    More like at least $100 for all 4 if sold on eBay. Awesome find.
     
  6. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    You should put your picture and some coins in a jar for the next guy.
     
  7. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

  8. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Keep looking and maybe you'll find his pocketwatch.

    The three later coins are pretty nice for found large cents. The 1833 looks F-VF, perhaps worth $50 unless there are problems.
     
  9. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Is that a Draped Bust dollar ?
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Cent.......
     
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  11. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    1833 if one of the die variety
    or
    1856 is also a variety as 6 looks large but a closeup view would help. 1801 & 1852 are gravy just found.
    I think you could not find one like any you found even on eBay for less than $60.00 that what eBay ending price page price range the last 7 days.
    :)
     
  12. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    If you do take a picture of yourself, you should dress up like Mr. Fowler. That should really creep out the next owners....lol.

    Nice find. I'd put them all in airtites.
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I wouldn't be surprised if they were used as washers for the nails in the jar. It was quite common in the 19th century.

    Chris
     
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  14. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    I'll be happy to give you twenty usd for them right now! Seriously,just watch this thread as the folks here are quite knowledgeable/helpful in cases like this. It was sure worth cleaning up the cellar this time! Congrats on the great finds and you will want to get/rent /borrow a metal detector to go over the accessable(dirt) areas before giving up the quest,I bet there's a mason jar with silver/gold coins down there somewhere!!!...
     
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  15. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Cool find. I don't know varieties too well, but the 56 is the upright 5 variety. I don't think there is much if any premium above the slanted variety, but it is considered a major variation. This my 56 slanted 5. image.jpg
     
  16. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    One thing not to do is use as washer.
    But do have someone look at them with a lop that Knows large cents. I hope you find more good free items that home owner may have put somewhere.
    Bye
    :)
     
  17. doug5353

    doug5353 Well-Known Member

    If the original house had an outhouse before indoor plumbing, examine the path halfway between the two structures. Money tended to be hidden where there was a lot of foot traffic, and constant disruption of the soil to hide any evidence of access. It was not buried deep, so as to allow quick in-and-out movement. Another favorite was the dog run, if any, or in the horses' stalls. Chimneys, unlikely. Old T-H tips.

    One more, a cut-off fence post. You could lift it up, retrieve your stash, etc., then set it back down again, and leave no sign of tampering. The posts are long since rotted, but you can usually tell where the fence-rows were, especially around the house.

    Until the Civil War and its mechanization of hardware manufacturing, it was MUCH cheaper to drill a hole in a large cent than to buy that size washers.
     
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  18. Searcher64

    Searcher64 Member

    You found the them in the basement. Is the basement dirt? If so, get a metal detector and check the floor out. You may be surprised at what you find. If you do use one, let us know what you find. Also check on the outside of the house. If you can find the old out house, dig it up and you may be surprised what you find.
    Nice find.
     
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  19. Searcher64

    Searcher64 Member

    What information do you need, Urban?
     
  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    1801 is a S-224, a common variety, it has some problems but it is a fairly decent coin, probably worth $40 or more by itself
     
  21. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I would be quite surprised if used as washers . First washers aren't used with nails they are used with nuts and bolts. Second at this time period 1 cent was a lot of money! Even to a lawyer.
    The wages or monthly salaries during this time were less than $2.00 @ month . Of course cost of living was cheaper also.
    During the 1930's a beer was a nickel and came with a free lunch! So go back another 75 to 100 years and your at a time where coinage was hard to come by, and hoarded to the extent trade tokens were in use.

    One dollar in 1890 money would be worth $26.33 in today's money.
     
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