I found two different 1936 pennies with same exact error on the R in LIBERTY. My guess this is grease-filled die error? If not what is it ? is it common ? 1st pic is close up of first penny - Second and third pic is of the second penny Thanks, Penny
The fact you have two basically cinches it as caked-in grease. One alone, we might be calling it post-mint damage.
The first image doesn't look the same as the second and third images. It's possible that they may be different die states. Chris
Chris, the grease can be expected to dislodge some for all the pounding, right? That pounding cracks and breaks dies. That may explain why they're not exactly alike.
I didn't say that they were from different dies. I said that they may be different die states. Please look carefully at the slight differences in the die deterioration on the "ERT" in the first two images. Chris
@eddiespin. So just to be clear, we are calling it grease-filled, not PMD? @cpm9ball. I just went and read up a little on die states. So,"Die States" refers to the wear on the die from the very first strike to the very last. And you can tell this because the lettering appears bigger or flatter at the end of a die state ? @alurid. Thank you for your help much appreciated Thank you all for looking penny
Yes, the die continues to deteriorate with each and every coin struck. However, "bigger or flatter" letters isn't an accurate description because the letters can change just from circulation wear. What is noticeable is the differences in the "die deterioration doubling" that is present. There are also many other "markers" that can be used to determine die state such as die cracks, die gouges, etc. and they may or may not be visible on other areas of the obverse of the coin. Chris
@cpm9ball. Very interesting! Looks like I will need to dig a little further in the reading . Thanks again !! Pennny
It is not grease. There was a broken working hub in 1936. Multiple dies were created using this hub. A couple of the major doubled dies of 1936 either were created with this hub, or created with this broken hub and a full R hub (broken R over full R or vice versa). Make sure to read the comments on the links below: DDO-001 was a full R over broken R: http://varietyvista.com/01a LC Doubled Dies Vol 1/1936PDDO001.htm DDO-002 was a full R over broken R: http://varietyvista.com/01a LC Doubled Dies Vol 1/1936PDDO002.htm DDO-003 was a full R over broken R: http://varietyvista.com/01a LC Doubled Dies Vol 1/1936PDDO003.htm DDO-011 had the broken R: http://varietyvista.com/01a LC Doubled Dies Vol 1/1936PDDO011.htm Hope this helps!
