For Lovers of Large Cents: two 1796 Draped Busts

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Eduard, Oct 8, 2008.

  1. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    hello All,
    I really haven't had a lot of time for coins lately, but i am always on the lookout for some of these old ladies from 1796, and these are two that caught my attention recently.
    They are both low grade, AG3-to G4, but fairly smooth and not corroded. The Sheldon 93 is a Rarity-3, and the S-102 is a rarity 4, with Head of 1794. (The S-93 may have been cleaned slightly, but not offensively).

    As mentioned, both are low grade, but i decided that i'd rather sacrifice grade and go for planchet quality instead. As some of you may know, finding 1796's with totally problem free planchets is a real challenge. If you do find high grade and planchet quality together, then prices escalate rapidly....
    Your comments as usual are very appreciated.
    Eduard
     

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  3. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Both look great and I still need this draped bust. Sigh. Really nice coins Eduard.
     
  4. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Mark, look at what Shawn Yancey has to offer. A pretty S-93, much better than mine and in my opinion now priced right. Worth taking a look.
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Eduard;
    I think that they are very ugly.
    So ugly that you should get rid of them.

    Please PM me for my address!

    Thanks for the contribution.
    Frank
     
  6. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Very nice. Thanks for sharing, I always enjoy looking a Early Coppers.
     
  7. sundance

    sundance Copper Enthusiast

    Hey now, now sense in you having to take both of them...you can send one along here. I promise it will be loved :cool:
     
  8. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I think you should send them to me for "proper" attributing. :D

    I still haven't picked up a 1796 for my collection but I will get started on that year soon, then I will be posting my acquisitions to tease you. :p

    Sweet copper! :thumb:

    Ribbit :)
     
  9. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Toad, do you think my attribution of the S-102 is incorrect? i admit it was not easy because the date is very weak, but it has all of the other diagnostics (per Breen) for the variety. This one shares the same reverse as one of the LIHERTY varieties which come up next in sequence (S-103).
    I will be waiting to see which 96's you come up with! Maybe you will be able to find an N.C variety as you did with the 1798(s)!
    "The competition will be intense", I still "need" a 103.
    Ed
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Head of 1794?? I think you mean rev of 97. :)

    I like both coins. Low grade but nice surfaces. And finding any 1796 draped bust cent is a challenge.
    And I agree with the S-102 attribution. Double terminal leaveson the right branch of the wreath, single leaves above ONE, double leaf below OF. That makes it 101, 102 or 103. Highest wave of hair is right of center of the R in LIBERTY, that makes it 102.
     
  11. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    The S-93 is a Reverse of 1795 and the S-102 is a reverse of 1794 and I too agree with your attributing. :thumb:

    Ribbit :)
     
  12. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Conder, thanks for confirming the attribution. The double leaves at OF are only barely visible but definitely there.

    You are right, i meant to say "Reverse of" and not "Head of". I am glad you caught that one.

    Regarding whether this is a reverse of 1797 or 1794, i admit i am a bit confused: Breen lists S-102 as a Reverse Type of 1797. However, both Heritage and the Stacks catalogue of the John Whitney Walter Collection ("Mr. 1796", May 1999) describe S-102 as being of the Reverse Type of 1794. Which is correct?

    Thanks for your comments!
    Ed
     
  13. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Thanks Eduard. I have seen Shawns coins(and yes they are nice), but they will have to wait.
     
  14. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Look on CoinFacts:

    http://coinfacts.com/large_cents/dr...rge_cents/1796_draped_bust_cent_varieties.htm

    Then you can also look at Tom's:

    http://www.largecents.net/collection/coinpics/s93.jpg

    http://www.largecents.net/collection/coinpics/s102.jpg

    Ribbit :)
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The 102 is a rev of 1794. The Breen book confused me as well when I saw that the 102 was listed after the heading of Rev of 1797. (Frankly I don't like to identify them as rev of XX because there isn't any simple way to identify the different types. Most any general rule you come up with runs into an exception that makes it appear to be one of the other types. )
     
  16. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Nice coins Eduard! Thanks for sharing...Mike
     
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