Flying eagle ,need help on the grade

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  1. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    Here is my 1858 flying eagle . I am hoping to get a close estimate on the grade , and also if anyone can enlighten me on whether it is large or small letter variety. Thanks in advance. Any help is greatly appreciated.also very sorry for the sideways pictures I know its a pain. WP_20160711_11_49_35_Pro.jpg WP_20160711_11_49_54_Pro.jpg
     
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  3. iontyre

    iontyre Active Member

    VF-30, Small letters.
     
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  4. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

  5. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    F-15. Do you know why this is a small letter coin?

    IMO a dealer will sell this as a VF.
     
  6. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I'd rate it VG, too worn to be Fine and way off VF.

    May look more like fine in hand but the pictures do not do it any favours
     
  7. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    Wow f-15 that hurts . No I'm not sure why it is small letter. I would like to learn though
     
  8. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    Yes camera phone , looks nicer in hand but I thought it would have been a little nicer than vg.
     
  9. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    It's vf
     
  10. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    I appreciate everyone's input, I will call it vf-30 lol. Im an optimist
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    it is nicer
     
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  12. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    Lets say it was VF 30 ... For this coin , would that be a middle of the road condition , or on the lower side for these coins? Also would you guys mind helping me on a grade for one of my buffalo nickels? I'm more of a cwt collector and haven't messed around with my U.S coins in a while, kinda rusty
     
  13. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    WP_20160711_006.jpg WP_20160711_13_20_24_Pro.jpg camera phone really doesn't do it justice but hopefully shows enough for a estimate on a grade for it
     
  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    We play "Let's Say" but you will not learn anything from the exercise. First, your coin is a Small Letter variety because the "AM" in America are separated.

    If you feel comfortable with your CWT grading skills, this one should be easy. Do you own a grading guide?

    Now as to its grade. I suggest you go to the PCGS website and compare the photos of the F-15 and the VF-20. IMO your coin is a solid F-15; however as I wrote above, most dealers will sell it as a VF. The low end of VF...that's VF-20! IMO, no professional TPGS grader would grade this coin higher than a VF-20 and then he might be taken to the wood shed anyway. :)

    From what I see at shows, your coin is in the middle range for unslabbed specimens.
     
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  15. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    Ok thanks for the information. I know that certain types of coins are graded differently depending on wear at certain spots. Not too familiar with the aspects on the grading of these. I am pretty good on the cwt's though.. They do not have the same grading techniques /guidelines. So I'm very thankful for all the help . I trust this forum , lots of help on here
     
  16. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The nickel looks EF.
     
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  17. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    Awesome I was hoping it would be worth possibly sending out for grading.
     
  18. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    1858-fly-eagle-cent-large-letters-small-letters.jpg
     
  19. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    Ok that makes it easy . Thanks . is one variety worth more than the other
     
  20. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    With those tail feathers that's a no-brainer VF.
     
  21. Jerry1979

    Jerry1979 Active Member

    There seems to be a wide range of opinion on this one. From 15 to VF 35.
     
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