Filled S, or D over S one cent?

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  1. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    image.jpg image.jpg Looks like a D over an S, but it could be a filled S. The 1979 does list a filled S type 1 in the red book. This was in regular circulation.
     
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It does look like it could be a D over S. I'm not 100% sure, though.

    Chris
     
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  4. -Andy-

    -Andy- Andrew B. -Andy- YN

    I have to agree with you...
     
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  5. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Agreed with the two above, it does look like a D over an S but that just doesn't make cents! o_O
     
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  6. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    Wouldn't the two marks come from different mints? Do you know if they share dies, and would use one from another mint?
    Thanks Seattlite86.
     
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  7. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I'm not exactly sure what to think here. I don't know of them sharing dies in that year. I do know that there are two Mint Mark styles for the San Francisco Mint and maybe yours used to be a proof and just happened to be the "filled S" that looks exactly like a D/S?
    http://lincolncentresource.com/San_Fransisco_Mintmark_Styles.html
    http://davescoins.net/info/1979varieties.htm
    http://cointrackers.com/coins/13687/1979-lincoln-penny/ (note the small comment about the two S's being minted)
     
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  8. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    An odd shaped die chip?
     
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  9. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the links. It resembles the Davescoins one, but the upper point of the D is there. I don't know, but I won't spend it until I can get it looked at.
     
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  10. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I wouldn't spend it anyway, it's pretty cool.
     
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  11. cpm9ball

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    Weren't all of the mintmarks placed on the dies at Philadelphia before shipping them to the branch mints?

    Chris
     
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  12. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    I found this on 'The United States Mint' website near the bottom of the article...

    " In addition, all working dies needed for the Denver facility are produced by the Denver Die Manufacturing Division along with some of the dies for the for the United States Mint at San Francisco."

    I would assume it's possible to mix them up and have two mint marks on the same die.
    http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/collectors_corner/?action=mint_marks
     
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  13. cpm9ball

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    The first part of that paragraph indicates that the mintmarks were placed on the working hub in Philadelphia.

    This is just a guess, but I think the "Denver Die Manufacturing Division" is not actually located at the Denver Mint. Rather, it is a subsection of the "Die Manufacturing Division" of the Philadelphia Mint.

    "All master dies, including those used in the Mint's numismatics and medals programs, are manufactured in the Die Manufacturing Division of the Philadelphia Mint. Mint marks are placed in the hub at Philadelphia. This hub is the tool that produces the working dies used to stamp the coins. Working dies are then delivered to the appropriate Mint facility for coinage purposes. In addition, all working dies needed for the Denver facility are produced by the Denver Die Manufacturing Division along with some of the dies for the for the United States Mint at San Francisco. Because of its secondary position in any coin designs, it has been the custom to make the mint mark as inconspicuous as possible and still be functional."

    Chris
     
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  14. dchjr

    dchjr Well-Known Member

    I've tried to find references to this for this year coin, but only see it in older cents like the 1944 or 1946.
    Ken Potter's page (http://koinpro.tripod.com/ErrorVarietyList.htm) has a large list of D/D RPM or S/S RPM, but not much on D/S RPM. Assuming this is actually a D over S, I would guess it's rare.
     
  15. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I see a mint mark with a die chip; the center curve of an "S" doesn't run straight like that.
     
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  16. cpm9ball

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  17. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    I agree with SuperDave. Chip.
     
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  18. cpm9ball

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    Jim, since the center of a "D" is a post on the die, how can you explain the fact that it runs diagonally through the post without the rest of it breaking away?

    Chris
     
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  19. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Looks like a filled, or partially filled D, that took a hit on the bottom left and pushed up metal from there to what appears to be the cross of an S.
     
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  20. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I beat you to it by about 15 hours :p

     
  21. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Perhaps SuperDave is blocking you because I was responding to his comment (not yours) which was about 13 hours after your post.

    Chris:woot::woot::woot:
     
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