FEV Ike: Did eagles become more friendly after the bicentennial?

Have something that looks like an FEV Eisenhower dollar, based on the lack of brow line on the eagle. But, several other markers aren't there--could be because it's a 1977-P!

2 issues there--known FEV's are:
1. Dated 1971 or 1972
2. Supposedly only a die at Denver

This is the best FEV info. I have at the moment:
http://www.ikegroup.info/?page_id=216

With more investigation, I find the 1978-D(x2) have a friendlier eagle too...not in as good of shape.See pictures and let me know what you all think. The eagle closeup is of the 1977-P. To me the old ones look like "grandpa eagle", the newer "friendly".

Thanks!

 

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@19Lyds & @jaceravone .........

These two guys know their Ikes.

Welcome to the forum Sunshine.

 

I found my own marker for quick 71-D FEV confirmation ... picked an unattributed PCGS MS-65 with it. I'll stop tooting my own horn ..... now

Anways, 2nd pic obvi an FEV. 3rd pic, could just be die changes made over the course of the series not related to the 71-D story about wanting truly a friendlier look and Gasparro pulling shenanigans (look for the re-entry vehicle left of the earth, a chevron, for a really good FEV)

 

Welcome, but stay way from Ken!

 

Welcome to the forum cheerful 16 Ken a very nice man,as for Treashunt "the other Frank" sez he's grumpy but he's not! He's just an old man who likes to complain !
Some have said he's Doug ' s twin separated at birth, the jury is still out on this verdict . Just one warning if either ask you to pull their finger....DON'T ! Enjoy there's a lot of knowledge here to be found.

 

lol Ok. No finger pulling. Got it.

 

Really 'gassed' tonite........

 

Hopefully someone can help you with your eagles...I have no clue. I only have 1 Ike.

Burbon, beans, or both?

 

Spaghetti.......and I made the sauce.

A bit of 'Evan' too.........

 

remember the word:

Payback!

 

In short, yes, the Eagles became friendlier.

But, try to not let the "Friendly" part of the variety "name" get in the way of the other more important features of the design variety which are unaffected by wear and strike quality.

 

For the uninitiated, what is a "friendly eagle"?

 

The OP gave a link to the IkeGroup's info on the variety in the initial post, check that out.

 

Oh, I clicked the link but all I saw was a page of legalese with terms and conditions, so I closed it. What uptight bunch of lawyers built that website? I've never seen a coin-info website with terms and conditions before it would let you read it.

For people who don't feel like wading through all that, could you give a brief synopsis here?

 

It's much easier to read that page as it is properly illustrated with examples for your reference and understanding.

Just scroll to the bottom and agree to the terms of the site and you'll quickly get an idea of what the Friendly Eagle Variety is.

What the terms are there for is to protect the Ike Group's hard work and research which they offer to collectors and fellow researchers, but which they choose to protect as copyright, perhaps, for future potential publication or use in reference by other numismatic publications using the Ike Group's research.

They put a lot of hard work into that research, especially during many years when people snubbed Ikes and Ike collecting/collectors. Now that they have assembled and identified a lot of varieties, and organized the information for easy use by collectors, and interested parties, they want some agreement from the end user to how that information is accessed and used.

I should imagine you can understand this and this is the only synopsis of the information I will provide you with as I think you should do your own research rather than accept a paraphrased brief from others, especially where the information in question is being accessed in proxy by others from a site that solicits your agreement.

Don't be lazy if you are truly curious about the FEV. You will gain much more by simply reading through it and the list of indicators to use in identifying the variety. It is well condensed for easy reading and understanding, on that site.

 

Honestly, I'm really not that curious about it. I really don't care about Ikes or their varieties. I just thought it would be an interesting tidbit that someone could quickly share, and help explain an arcane post.

I understand copyright. I wrote a book, and understand the value of protecting my work. But if you put it on the internet, its out there for everyone. That's the whole idea of the internet - the free and open exchange of information. Putting that information behind a disclaimer and a waiver and terms and conditions just reinforces my already somewhat sour image of the Ike group.

 

The "Friendly" eagle does not contain the brow line that makes an eagle look stern. There are also many other die characteristics for this variety, but that is the one that gave it is name.

Mike

 

Dup post

 

Your preconceived notions of the Ike group seems to be the entire problem here.

I call attention to the bold parts from your post above and ask you to reconsider that so too are books in libraries out there in a free and open exchange of information. They all tend to have copyright in place protecting them, or are otherwise indicated if not. There are ethical ways for making use of their information (by giving citations when referenced or republished, if permitted, or by requesting permissions to do so from the publishers, if designated). When you open a book in a library you are accessing something put out there for everyone and are agreeing to the terms of use. I'm sure if you have published something as you declared then you would like the same protections of your work, and if not, then you may have clearly stated it in the contents of your material, should it require no special permissions or limitations of reuse or proper reference to it's author(s) and publisher(s).

 

That "legalese" pretty much eliminates the spammers from posting their crap all over the IKE Group forums which had been targeted in the past.

Each forum member has to click the agree box every 7 days. No biggie to me as its simply the contraceptive that is used to keep the forums clean.