FBL and FSB

I know what FBL and FSB mean.( full bell lines and full split bands).
But can someone in here actually describe what these actually are. The FBL is on the Franlin and the FSB concerns the Mercury dime.Since Im upgrading my collection i would like to know the differences.

Thanks in advance CLAW

 

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I can help with the FBL, but i will assume the FSB is similar. The FBL refers to the bottom of the bell on the franklin halfs. Since they were a very weeakly struck series, finding halfs that were struck with FBLs are preffered. I am not sure if the FBL status make a difference in grade however, since finding a ms-60 can be with or without FBL status as can the ms-61. I own a bunch of slabbed franklins and prefer to buy mine only with the FBL markings.

 

Full split bands look like this ,, 1917 Reverse .

The term FSB applies to the center bands, to full bands should be full divided rounded bands .

Rick

 

Thanks for your info .I was hoping to see an example of each(with FBL and without, FSB and without, So I ,and everyone else can clearly see the differences.

Thanks CLAW

 

Ok !! without FSB's

I dont so Franklins so I hope someone else can supply those photos.

Rick

 

Close but not quite !!

Bad pic !!! Oh well you can get the Idea !!

Rick

 

Thanks Metalman, that was easy enough to see. I learn something new every day.

Now i just need to see an example of the Fbl.

i know i should buy the book before the coin ,but if im gonna drop 20 -50 dollars on a book , I would rather spend that on another coin.

Thanks a bunch CLAW

 

On FSB and FBL NGC is harder to get so in the end they will be better....on FSB PCGS says that only the middle band must be full and NGC says that ALL 3 rows of bands must be full.....same with FBL...PCGS says the last 3 lines much be full but NGC says that the all of (I think 5) the lines must be full

Speedy

 

That $20-$50 spent on a book will probably return far more 'dividends' than another coin will. Knowledge IS $$$ money if you're buying coins...The good news is that there's a ton of free info on the 'net and in the forums. IMO

 

I think the FBL must refer to the lines around the lower edge of the bell because of all the pics I've just looked at,the halves with this designation have only partial lines around the lower center of the bell.Here is an example.It is listed as MS65FBL.

 

Always something ...

The Full Split Bands can be created with the right style X-acto blade and a tack hammer.

It would not be a big deal, if it were not such a big deal. In other words, the fact that FSB coins command such a high premium is the incentive to fake the appearance of Full Split Bands.

Michael

 

Thanks everyone

Today im going to a used book store to pick up some coin books, so I dont have to ask dumb questions!!!!!

 

before you call any question dumb - unless its about cleaning coins - before you call any of them dumb... read any of my posts -- im not the smartest collector and i have lots to learn.... asking questions, as long as you listen to the answers, is good for everyone, because others will learn things from the questions you ask. Just - -PLEASE - - dont ever ask about cleaning =)

 

Hey now, we love posters that have lots of questions. But reading books like PCGS and ANA grading guides will give you more info than anyone can ever hope to post.

 

The problem with reading books is it can take a long time to find a reference to what your looking for. Even then you're not guarenteed an answer. Most of the time it is easier and more benifical to ask the knowledgable because they have the experience. Don't get me wrong you should still read but even a well read person should ask questions. The three letter word WHY is one of the most powerful words in the english language and it should be used more, a whole lot more.