Fake US trade dollars and early 1700's Spanish 8 reales on eBay

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  1. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    They HAVE to be real, after all they are coming from:

    Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam!
     
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  4. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    I'm curious how you know. I'm certainly no expert, but there's nothing about them that would jump out at me.
     
  5. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Decent mid grade fake trades I wish I could pick up a whole bunch at melt just to use for a study / research project not like I have time but a real good reference book could be wrote about different varietys of fake trade dollars I'd buy it
     
  6. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Check out the crude and irregular details. What jumps out at me right away is the stars, some points are hooked instead of sharp and even triangles. Compare to PCGS slabbed business strike. Also the eagle's neck has gaps and the 00's in .900 are inconsistent with one having a round center hole and one more square.

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  7. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    I don't think I'll ever be able to spot things like this. This is one reason why I stick to cheap coins.
     
  8. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Don't lose faith man, just keep looking at both genuine examples and fakes and eventually your brain will be trained to spot the subtle details automatically.
     
  9. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Thanks for pointing out the exact details me it's just feel and knowing the series I just look and I know something's wrong at least coins like this is all the strike details and lack of crispness just tells my eye something's wrong the really top end ones I need to see in hand tho why I won't buy an I slabbed trade sight unseen or even a slabbed from someone I don't know
     
  10. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    I would bet that they are made to look circulated instead of having actual wear. Most of the time pictures provided for such fakes are not large enough to get a close up look, but in this case they are and I think it is very clear these were not actually in circulation and are modern fakes.
     
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