EXHIBIT: These are a Few of My Favorite Things

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  1. The Penny Lady®

    The Penny Lady® Coin Dealer

    These Are a Few of My Favorite Things

    Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
    Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
    Brown paper packages tied up with strings
    These are a few of my favorite things

    I recently heard this song by Julie Andrews from the Sound of Music and it got stuck in my head, then it also got me thinking, “What are a few of MY favorite things?” Well, of course, my Indian cent collection came to mind. I can’t think of anything else (besides my family and little kitty) that brings me more joy. So I thought I’d like to share a few of my favorite Indian cents from my personal collection. (Photos are courtesy of Todd Pollock at BluccPhotos.com.)​


    Many of those who know me know that I love toned copper, both Indian and Lincoln cents, and most of the coins in my personal collection have, in my opinion, beautiful toning – blues, greens, silver, rose, magenta, etc. However, some of my most favorite coins have interesting and unique errors or varieties. And if they happen to also have pretty toning, all the better. This first favorite is one I recently acquired at auction and happens to have beautiful toning in addition to its amazing error.​


    1880 PCGS MS-65 BN Snow-1, Doubled Die Obverse, Off-Center Clashed Die Reverse

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    As Rick Snow stated when he wrote the auction description: “This is one of the most intriguing varieties known to collectors irrespective of denomination or type. There are clashmarks on the reverse from the obverse die, but instead of being emplaced in the corresponding area they are widely off center. Such is the position of the clashmarks, in fact, that the letters ICA in AMERICA and the surrounding denticles are clearly visible sweeping down through the reverse field between the right wreath and the shield to the letters NE in ONE. One theory as to the cause of this off-center clash is a quick hardness test by the die maker. By smacking the soft die with another die, the impression left would show whether the die was soft enough to accept a digit punch.” I just love the beautifully toned double die off center die clash and am proud to have it in my collection.​


    1886 Type 1 NGC MS65 RB Clamshell Lamination



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    This is a coin I bought several years ago from a so-called vest pocket dealer at the Long Beach show. It was in a 2x2 cardboard flip at the time and I didn’t notice the clamshell planchet until I removed it from the holder. Wow, what a nice surprise on a really high quality better date Indian cent! I’ve kept it raw until recently when NGC introduced their new EdgeView holders where the rim is still visible inside the holder. It was authenticated as a “Clamshell Lamination” and I was even more please when NGC again agreed with my grade of MS65 RB!​

    1887 NGC MS63 RB Obverse Struck Thru



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    This is another coin I found raw on Ebay and sent it in for grading at NGC. I initially had thought the foreign material had to be a wire or possibly a hair because I thought the object that was struck thru had to be something strong or hard in order to sustain the pressure of the powerful metal dies pressing onto the planchet. So I posted these photos on some message boards to solicit ideas as to what had been left on the die that was struck thru, and the consensus was that it was probably a piece of thread left over from a cleaning cloth used to wipe the dies. Interesting piece, don’t you think?​


    1864-L AU Reeded Edge


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    This is another piece that I found on Ebay about 10+ years ago (yes, I love to peruse Ebay and have been lucky to find some very unique items). In addition to it being a nice quality better date 1864-L, I just thought this coin was so unique and couldn’t imagine at the time how it got the reeded rim. Also, if you look close at one of the photos, you’ll see a nice reverse die break that goes from the wreath at about 10:00 down and across the C and E in CENT. I again posted photos on the message boards and received some very plausible explanations, including the following:​


    This edge can be accomplished with a simple knurling tool on a lathe. Smaller diameter sacrifice stock is placed on either side of the host coin, (like a sandwich) the knurling tool can then be applied to create the reduced diameter decorative edge design. Any gun manufacturer from the Civil War era on would be able to create an example as such.


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    Knurling is commonly done on a lathe in a machine shop. This coin was obviously done by hand by a skilled craftsman in the pre machine tool days. Very similar to the old "hand checkering" that gunsmiths do. Pure art and skilled hands.....and a dying skill at that with the age of modern CNC equipment. [The above] pic is that of a knurling head that goes into a CNC or manual lathe, and is adjustable to fit the diameter of the workpiece.


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    Even though most likely manmade, I am crazy about this unique Indian cent and am pleased to be able to show it to others thanks to Todd’s great photos.​


    1861 NGC MS64 10% Curved Clip



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    I found this gorgeous error last year in another dealer’s case in Chicago. It was raw and just caught my eye in because the dealer had all kinds of coins and but only a couple of Indian cents. I also recently sent this in to be graded and was happy that NGC agreed with my assessment of MS64. I think it is pretty rare to find a high quality Civil War period cent with such a large error – obviously, someone must have noticed in way back then and removed it from circulation. There is also some die clashing evident in front of the portrait.​


    1873 PCGS MS64 RB Closed 3 Snow 2 Double Liberty



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    And here is a beautiful 1873 Snow 2 Double Liberty. This coin is extra special to me because, if any of you have read “The Penny Lady” article that was first published here in the Ledger several years ago (and is also posted on my website), you may recall that I mentioned an unc 1873 Closed 3 that I had won off Ebay for $110. It was a beautiful coin, probably MS64 RB, and at that time I didn’t know much about the double Liberty. Right after the auction ended, I received an email from another Ebayer offering to buy it for an additional $100. I told him I would have to wait until I had the coin in hand to see it for myself before I would sell it. That email made me suspicious, so I decided to take a good close look at the coin when I got it to see why this guy was eager to pay so much more for it. So as soon as the coin arrived, I pulled out my Flynn variety book (I didn’t have Rick’s books back then) and compared this coin to all the 1873 varieties, and, yes, I'm sure you guessed it, it was the double die variety – unfortunately, not the Type 1, but almost as good - it was the Type 2 variety with most of the letters in Liberty strongly doubled. Of course I hooted and yelped and was so excited that my family wondered what was going on. I can sincerely say that that was the moment my husband and kids finally understood the true value of a penny! Any way, a short time later, I took this coin to the Long Beach show and ended up selling it raw for $2,000. ​


    Well, fast forward many years later. I recently saw this 1873 S-2 on Rick's website, and I'd swear it was the same coin I sold all those years ago. So, of course, I just had to have it - and now I do, and this is a photo of my old/new 1873 S-2!​


    1877 NGC MS65 RB



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    I’ve saved the best for last! What can I say…. I have looked for many years to find a pretty toned high-end 1877 Indian cent, and until now the only one I found was one Rick had a couple years ago, except that it was MS66 RB and very out of my price range (it’s the same one Rick had imagined onto his mouse pads). Then, at the ANA, I saw this in Rick’s case and immediately fell in love with it. I even told Rick, “Now that’s a Charmy coin!” So I went back to my table and began figuring out how I can acquire this gorgeous piece. So with a little finagling and a little dickering and some kind concessions from Rick, this fantastic key date is now in my collection!​
     
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  3. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I am speechless after that exhibit. Having trouble typing cause there is drool on my keyboard. I wish I had the worship emoticon from the NGC board, I would post 100 of them.

    Reading your posts Charmy makes we wish you were the nickel lady instead of the Penny Lady. If that were so, I think I would be your number one customer.

    I really hope Ruben stops by at some point and adds your exhibit to the museum.

    Again, Bravo!
     
  4. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    great post, some good stuff in here :)

    I have to say though, after seeing the reeded IHC in hand, pictures don't do it justice!
     
  5. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Thanks for sharing :) great post and great coins
     
  6. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    Charmy, if I may, you've given me a whole new perspective on Indian Head Cents. My compliments on thost photographs. I have seen none that are better.
    I have a barber friend who has a collection of them but hasn't touched them for at least 25 years. He says he has forgotten everything about them and has asked me to help him go over his IHC's to see what value if any there is to it. He did say he has about 12 cents to go to complete it but that might mean anything. He says he has at least 200 of them.
    I bought him the 2010 Red Book, A Black Book, and A Guide to IHC's and Lincoln Memorial Cents for him to read and study. I now know he probably won't even look at them. I'll see what's what when he finishes up his last house restoration project. His wife passed away about a year ago and he has time now to get back into the coin hobby. Just thought I would let you know what's happenning.

    zeke
     
  7. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    Very, very nice. Great post.
     
  8. JJK78

    JJK78 Member

    Wow what an awesome collection! I must confess, after seeing your beautiful Indians posted I have decided to start a higher end Indian collection myself. I think it was your beautiful 1894/94 that you posted not to long ago that got me hooked!

    Thanks for sharing!
    J
     
  9. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member



    The next time I go to the bank, I'll have to pull out my only high grade Indian and see what you think. I've gone through several guesses about whether it's actually a proof or not and whether it's an error or suffered PMD. Of course, I haven't pulled it out for a while, so this is a good excuse to move on to non Large Cents for a little while..
     
  10. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    As always, beautiful coins. I love to look at them whenever you show them.

    Bruce
     
  11. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Always nice to see these coins. Very nice all of them.
     
  12. HOLLYWOOD

    HOLLYWOOD Active Member

    All i can say is wow
     
  13. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    What a lineup, easy to see why they're some of your favs. My #1 choice is the '80 clashed die, that clash is so prominent. Well done.
     
  14. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    What a collection. The 1864-L is spectacular...
     
  15. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Awesome pieces, thanks for sharing.
     
  16. Art

    Art Numismatist?

    Absolutely beautiful. Your taste in Indian Head Cents is superb. :thumb:
     
  17. G-man422

    G-man422 Member

    Love that reeded edge!
     
  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  19. majorbigtime

    majorbigtime New Member

  20. RUFUSREDDOG

    RUFUSREDDOG Senior Member

    sUPER sHOWING

    Wonderful exhibition.

    More! More!:thumb:
     
  21. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    This was a real EXHIBIT thread, in the fact that these coins are Museum pieces.
    Words cannot describe the jealously I have and the metric/standard systems cannot measure the amount of drool on my desk. :D
    This is one heck of a thread, and that reeded edge cent is still one that really catches my eye, and that 77' MS65 is beautiful, loving that blue and the contrast between obverse and reverse.

    Excellent Charmy!
     
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