Ever seen this - counterfeit morgan sheets

The blurry photos are from someone that would like to sell me 30 1889cc Morgans. I have never seen them stored in a sheet like this and they all look about the same. What is your call? Any chance they might be real in hand or are they sending me a photo of a sheet of fakes? Ive just never seen it like this.

 

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By the way you can also see the 1890s. They have 30 of each year like this!!

 

The 1889 CC is a key date 350,000 minted.
I don't know if these are real or fake, but how could anyone
have 30 of these coins raw? It makes my spider sense tingle.

 

I think I'm going to go meet with them tomorrow unless someone here says that they are a very obvious fake.

 

I would not hold my breath until I turned blue. Suggestion: estimate the average grade, look up a price guide, compare that to the per price the seller wants and I think you might have your answer quickly.

 

They come that way from the counterfeit factory in China.

 

Do you know that for a fact?

 

That's how they're often shown for sale on that site we shall not name. You're supposed to remove them from the sheet and sell them one by one too fools along with some story about how you found them in the Attic when Granny passed

 

Just curious. How much do they want for that sheet of 89s?

 

^^^ This is a good point. Because if they want 3,000 etc.
Retail VF 30,000 and EF 60,000- $70,000.
Bring a scale and a magnet and the FBI.

 

If it looks too good to be true then.......

You know the rest. I'm normally cynical and with all the stuff coming from China, I would not bet there is a higher probability that they are fake than real.

If I were playing in that game, I would make sure I knew as much about the VAM characteristics of each date and make sure each coin matches up. There is probably still a good chance that the Chinese counterfeiters just use any available 1889 obverse and CC reverse (but who knows when they are going to take the next jump and match VAMs).

Good luck

 

They claim they got them from their grandfather and dont know what they are worth. I will inspect tomorrow - magnet, scale, and caliper in hand.

 

Be careful. You probably don't know who you are dealing with.

 

No worries. On deals like this I meet at the police station. It is a good deterant for those selling stolen coins or fakes. I have had several people cancel our meeting when I insisted that is where I meet.

 

Even money your seller doesn't show.

 

I saw coins like that when I was in Korea last year. Obviously all fakes.

 

Be careful. Very, very careful.

Not trying to keep you from a good deal, but think this through a little bit. An XF 89-CC is worth about $2000, and is a key date ($60K total for the 30 coins). Even a novice collector can look it up in the Red Book and see it's valuable so why would the store in these sheets with no 2x2. Not definitive proof but it makes me think.

Too many things point to someone trying to unload fakes and the Grandpa story just adds icing to the cake. Don't waste your time

 

Let us know how you make out!!!

 

Can you share a screen shot of what you are talking about. If you can share a similar setup I wont meet them and I would appreciate it.

 

These are being offered over on Listia but advertised as replicas. Please be very careful and arrive at the police station earlier than they do and have a detective available in case. If they do show and they are counterfeits...BAM.