Ever Heard of Antandrus, Troas?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by John Anthony, Apr 4, 2015.

  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Me neither. Evidently a minor city in the Troad region of Anatolia. It fades in and out of written history, and wasn't rediscovered until 1888. Serious excavation didn't occur till 1959. There's a brief article on wiki here. Evidently the folks of Antandrus started minting their own coinage around 440 BC. They were fond of lions.

    In Mat's thread I commented that in the world of ancients, rarities aren't rare. You occasionally stumble on a coin that would be next to impossible to find if you went looking for it. This is a case in point. I can find no examples of this type on the web. Wildwinds and acsearch show a few right-facing lions, but none turned 1/4 left. It's SNG Cop. 218, and an itsy-bitsy thing at 1.83g. Great detail for a coin-speck, no?

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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice lil' rarity, JA!
     
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  4. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Thats an awesome lion. Great score JA!
     
  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yes, but he doesn't look very ferocious. He looks more like one of my daughter's stuffed animals - Fuddlewuddle.

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  6. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    very nice find i like rarities
    :D
     
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  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The truth is, I have no idea if it's a rarity. It just happens to be the only left-facing variety around at the moment. That in itself does not make it a rarity.
     
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  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Great lil' animal-coin!! (yup, I'm Über jealous of that sweet cat-coin!!)

    ... man, that baby would fit-in nicely with my hoard of Troas bobbles (if you ever get tired of that sweet kitty, I am always willing to adopt a new pet)

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  9. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    for me it does, :D
     
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  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Eh, I'm like you with my coins. Permanent adoption. However, I am going to another coin show today, and I'm going to keep my eyes open for any boring modern junk that I can flip on eBay to fund my ancients collection.
     
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  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That's a great coin, JA. I've not seen a one-quarter left facing lion from Antandros before. The typical SNG Cop 218 is like my first one below, just standard right facing, and quite a bit lighter at under 1g.

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    I wish my two refugees from this city were in better shape, but when you take a gamble with mixed lots you gotta just roll with the dice.
     
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  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I don't have SNG Copenhagen, so I'm not sure if 218 is the right attribution. That's just copied from the dealer. I see all the right-facing lions attributed as 218 or 219, so perhaps a left-facing one isn't in SNG Cop? Perhaps 218 var. is the proper way to number it for now?
     
  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Very interesting. I think this is one of those things like Doug was talking about. Once a specimen is shown here, if we like it we all start looking for something similar.
     
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  14. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    My son has that same lion!!!
     
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  15. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Great coin for sure, congrats!
     
  16. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Aha... the problem with the OP beastie is that he doesn't have his head the right way up. The reverse needs to be rotated 90 degrees counter-clockwise.

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    Now, he's looking right like the rest of his friends. At this weight it should be SNG Cop 217:
    O: Head of Artemis Astyrene right.
    R: Lion's head right, blowing raspberry; ANTAN to right; bunch of grapes below.
     
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  17. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Funny-- none of us picked up on that little malrotation :D
     
  18. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Eh, we just see what master tells us to see :cyclops:...
     
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  19. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    that's a great little coin JA, i love little greek coins.

    i also love big greek coins.

    medium greek coins.

    roman coins

    byzantine coins


    .....well, you get the idea.

    anyway, that little lion is awesome.
     
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  20. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Well now it looks like a nice beastly lion! I feel rather like a dope, but I still like the coin immensely. :)
     
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  21. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ahahaha, JA ... man, that's kinda funny (that is definitely something "I' would have fallen for, my friend)
     
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