Estate Sale Pick-Up Can I Get A Grade ?

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Was $20 too much to pay ?

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  1. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    My wife and I went to an estate sale over the weekend looking for odds and ends. Well in a case I found this and bought it for $20. I think I got a good deal. I could use advise from all of you. What do you think ? DSC07888 (2).JPG DSC07889 (2).JPG
     
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  3. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    I would say yes, it looks like a nice coin. But as we all say, if you're happy with it then it was money well spent :)
     
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  4. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    It's a common Morgan and I would say about AU55. Retail would probably be around $35.
     
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  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Does it show any luster? I can't tell from your photos.

    Chris
     
  6. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    thank you I like the Morgan it should go well in my collection
     
  7. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    thanks I'm getting better at looking at these and paying the right price instead of getting ripped off like I used to.
     
  8. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    That is probably the one thing I'm maybe still learning. I feel that there is a luster to it. Explain the difference ?
     
  9. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    I'd say you got it for about normal price (that's what Morgans go for in my boss's auctions.)

    Here is the definition of Luster from the official ANA Grading Standards:

    Official A.N.A. Definition: Luster, or mint bloom or frost, is one of the most important aspects of grading in the Mint State category. All other things being equal, a coin with rich, deep mint luster is a better candidate for a higher grade than is one with a dull or lifeless luster. One rule does not fit all; luster can vary from type to type, and examination of a wide selection of coins in the marketplace is the best way to gain expertise in this vital feature.

    And from About.com's definition:

    "Luster on a coin's surface is the sheen or reflective qualities that are produced during the minting process. When a coin is struck, metal flows from the center of the coin towards the outer edge. This process produces microscopic striations (very tiny parallel grooves) that reflect light back to the viewer in a unique crossing pattern. As the coin is tilted under a light, this crossing pattern will spin around the coin. This is known as the cartwheel effect."
     
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  10. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    Thank you for the information and definition. I will continue to read up on this but you gave me a great starting point and things to look for.
     
  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The silver dollar is often referred to as a cartwheel. That is because when it is tilted up and down and back and forth under a light, the luster will radiate around the coin like the spokes of a wheel.

    If you look at the example below, you can see the luster from the lights to the northeast & northwest.

    Chris

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  12. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    Thanks that tells me a lot and what to look for. Make absolute sense DUH I've seen this before.
     
  13. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    That is a very good question. There is a big difference in shine and luster. Shiny undefused textureless reflection usually means polished or cleaned. Luster on the other hand has an hologram effect to it that when the coin is rotated in the light, it defuses the light giving the reflection itself a texture. The flow lines of metals moving to fill voids in the die during the stamping process create luster. Those are extremely thin and common wear or cleaning will remove or distort them.
     
  14. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    So when a coin has been cleaned the product used to clean the coin, even soap, will fill in these 'flow lines'? Correct ?
     
  15. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Not nesseserily. Mind soap with no abrasives in it usually will have no reaction to the metal. But the process of applying and removing does. Any cleaning agent that will react or desolve a metal will remove the luster. As will just rubbing with a thumb.
     
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  16. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    So....the material from a cloth or other material will cause the loss of luster when the coin is dried..
     
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  17. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Yep.
     
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  18. C G Memminger

    C G Memminger Active Member

    a little bit of wear in lady's hair. AU. the scratches on her face are distracting, but I can't tell if they are cleaning marks. Anyway, this is a common date coin.

    for $20, you did fine!
     
  19. charlietig

    charlietig Well-Known Member

    I'd buy it for 20 anyday. Nice Morgan
     
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  20. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    You did just fine at $20.00. I have not seen them at this price for quite awhile, even when buying rolls.
     
  21. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    An old wrinkly twenty dollar bill or a classic silver dollar with plenty of meat left? No contest, I think you did just fine.

    I would say that the coin does show signs of polishing, but not that big of a deal at that price point. Be a little more cautious in the future though. I find new quarters are a good tool to compare too. The luster should really be pretty similar if it hasn't been tampered with.

    Great info Chris and Hommer!
     
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