Environmental Damage???

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by schatzy, Apr 27, 2010.

  1. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~

    Well this coin came back with environmental damage and it has me speechless!! What do you think?
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  3. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I'm not sure that I disagree with them. Sometimes the strangely toned ones get the ole environmental damage. This one does appear to have toned strangely but I think the damage (it looks like it might be a planchet flaw tho) inside the toning was the reasoning for the designation.
     
  4. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~

    When I bought it, I thought is was a lamination error
     
  5. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    And it quite possibly is... but with the odd toning they didn't feel the coin was market acceptable.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I don't think that is toning at all. It looks like some liquid got on the coin and dried there staining the coin.

    I agree 100% - environmental damage.
     
  7. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    I suspect that coin was at one time in a Whitman or equivalent folder. Not and album, a folder. Always note the rear of those folders are shinny due to the gluing process. When exposed to moisture, the glue connects or attacks the coins. Could be from that.
     
  8. Mad.Outcast

    Mad.Outcast New Member

    Let me ask you this? Do you really want to know exactly what happened to this coin?
     
  9. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    It is indeed strange looking, but I think environmental damage is the right call there it looks like something was on the coin due to the wipe, splash marks on the left hand side of the rev from 9 o'clock to about 11 o'clock.
     
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Jaime,

    Sometimes "Environmental Damage" can be used as a catch-all much like "Altered Surfaces", wherein, there is no explanation for the specific cause. As Dutch stated, NGC probably didn't believe it was market acceptable.

    Are you giving any consideration to submiting it for review?

    Chris
     
  11. BR549

    BR549 Junior Member

    I have seen this type of confusion on War Nickels before, maybe not this dramatic, but due to a improper alloy mix, streaks of copper at the surface tone like they were applied by a paint brush. These layers can even laminate away from the alloy making for a unappealing surface.

    Copper - 56%
    Silver - 35%
    Manganese - 9%

    You could say with out a doubt, something in the environment affected the surface, could have been nothing more than ambient air or it could have been from something a little bit more detrimental to create this anomaly, it recieved one of those "catch all" terms...just keep it as a learning tool.

    I kinda like it, it demonstrates just how much trouble mixing these metal alloys at the Mint smelters really was.

    Happy Collecting
     
  12. Mad.Outcast

    Mad.Outcast New Member

    Let me ask you this? Do you really want to know exactly what happened to this coin?


     
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