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  1. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    The unslabbed photos....

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  3. Valentinian

    Valentinian Supporter! Supporter

    I see the aureus is MS*, strike 5/5, and surface 3/5. I'm sorry, but I want mine to have surface at least 4/5. I won't be bidding.
     
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  4. NewStyleKing

    NewStyleKing Beware of Greeks bearing wreaths

    Where did it appear from? Just like my 2 Palms Newstyle-also via Roma-I would love to know!

    How was it validated? The BM example is/was thought not kosher?
     
  5. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    The BM example is presumed to be authentic. The Bundesbank/NFA example is questionable.

    I don't have time to explain what all went into authenticating it, but it took several days.

    Barry Murphy
     
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  6. NewStyleKing

    NewStyleKing Beware of Greeks bearing wreaths

    Thanks for that, look forward to the auction.
     
  7. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Supporter! Supporter

    Informations from ROMA : From the collection of the Baron Dominique de Chambrier, original attestation of provenance included;
    Ex collection of Bernard de Chambrier (1878-1963) and Marie Alvine Irma von Bonstetten (1893-1968);
    Ex collection of the Baron Gustave Charles Ferdinand von Bonstetten, Chamberlain to Ferdinand I, Emperor of Austria.

    Notes on die state:
    The present coin exhibits the characteristic die breaks common (to greater or lesser degree) to all of the known examples of Cahn die ‘A’ (Campana O1). The most prominent of these are a sickle-shaped feature located behind the nape of Brutus’ neck, a further break emanating from the peak of Brutus’ forehead where it meets his hairline, and an area of roughness directly before Brutus’ brow that can be seen to evolve into a pronounced pellet-like break on late die-state examples. Additional die breaks are located above the tip of the nose, between the back of the head and ‘A’ of PLAET, between and above the letters ‘P’ and ‘L’ of PLAET, and extending vertically downwards from below the chin. (...)

    https://www.romanumismatics.com/ind...rch_type=&year=&month=&department_id=&cat_id=
     
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  8. Only a Poor Old Man

    Only a Poor Old Man Well-Known Member

    Wow, the provenance is almost as impressive as the coin itself. It will sell for big bucks me thinks... I will be glued in front of my PC screen with a beer and some popcorn when this baby is due.

    I am going to browse the auction listings because I have the feeling there may be other impressive coins in there...
     
  9. NewStyleKing

    NewStyleKing Beware of Greeks bearing wreaths

    So, the aureus is struck from denarius dies.
    For saying that the previous owners were great collectors/academics, it seemed they all kept the aureus under wraps. Obviously they weren't keen on others knowing and letting the authors of Impretorial publications in on the know?
    I guess research can hang. They probably got secret Rembrandts hanging on the wall and a sestersius of Otho too-just for their private pleasure.
    What is the point?
     
  10. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Supporter! Supporter

    What else are evil geniuses supposed to hang on the walls of their lairs?

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  11. Only a Poor Old Man

    Only a Poor Old Man Well-Known Member

    All the lots are visible now... Some impressive coins there I have never seen before. I wonder if they will print a catalogue that common mortals can buy.
     
  12. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

    Wow, some great lots in there
     
  13. NewStyleKing

    NewStyleKing Beware of Greeks bearing wreaths

    The tetradrachm of Teos for me

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  14. Limes

    Limes Supporter! Supporter

    October is a busy month for the lucky mortals with deep, deep pockets and a thing for ancients: Kunker (1/2 october), NAC (6/7 october), MDC Monaco (29th october), Roma (30th October).....
    I friendly request that they all bid each other into poverty for the remainder of the year, so I can enjoy the other auctions with prices on a pre-virus level :D
     
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  15. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Supporter! Supporter

    Estimate:£500,000 ($639,535 €540,390)

    Opening Bid:£300,000($383,721 €324,234)

    :greedy::greedy::greedy::greedy::greedy::greedy:.....
     
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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Or, a cool 14,832,561,449.18 VND
     
  17. Valentinian

    Valentinian Supporter! Supporter

    What do you think it will sell for, including fees? If it went for the estimate, with 20% fees, the cost would be $768,000. The way prices have been moving recently, combined with the highest desirability of that coin, encourage me predict it will shatter the $1 million mark.
     
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  18. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    I think it will unquestionably hammer north of $1 million. IMHO there's a good chance it'll break the $2 million mark, and perhaps as high as $3 million after fees. I think it'll set a new record for the most expensive Roman coin ever sold
     
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  19. Ricardo123

    Ricardo123 Well-Known Member

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  20. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    I think it will sell for 3-5 million.

    Barry Murphy
     
  21. Kavax

    Kavax Well-Known Member

    The Lot 65, a tetradrachm of Naxos estimated £200,000 is in all probability a modern forgery and has the same pedigree ; a pretty nice fail :D ...

    but despite this, the Roma sale is really awesome !!
     
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