Am I understanding this correctly? That if you sign up for Ebid.net, you give them any and all rights irrevocably, to use your photos and descriptions, application data ( name, address, phone number, etc) , anything but your credit card or account number. What a wondrous publication of your name, address, phone number, and even the amount of coins you offer or sell to sell legally to anyone they wish. Or am I being too suspicious? I am sounding like Ruben Jim
Its crazy and such EULA's should be explicitely illegal. Its OBVIOUS once it is exposed, right? Not a Left Right issue but a Right Wrong issue? Ruben
I wonder how many people just check the little box without reading to the end. Many I suspect....after all nothing bad can happen on the internet, right? But then again I remember the little problem about the Heritage insurance document. Jim
That is the expect behavior, right... no matter what thy do or say, that is what they bank on, not that you'd get on the phone with a laywer and review the contract with a lawyer. It's the failure of the legal system to admit that unless everyone is armed with lawyers that the contracts are BOGUS because nobody reads them or understands even what they read, that these contracts are inherently unfair or non-binding.... one or the other... Ruben
I'd assume that 95+% of the people don't read the EULA/T&C/TOS etc... and even if they did read said documents, few of them would understand them.
OK, you two have lost me! What's the problem? At this point, I would have to be certain that you two absolutely refuse to do business with eBay whatsoever, since the eBid agreement referred is practically a plagiarism of eBay's own agreement (check under CONTENT).
exactly. Did you ever read what my poor friend Adam Kosmin went through with the Windows Refund project? Even if you READ IT, you can't enforce your part of the agreement! http://www.windowsrefund.info/ Ruben
I don't because the Ebay contract sucks also. But understand something. Ebay hasn't been able to enforce its own EULA because its been halted from using your private data in the courts. And California and other states have privacy laws where a privacy statement must be publshed which, BTW, ebay has and which is diametrically states the opposite of its EULA. Low and Behold, someone decided that there is only SO much you can agree to by just saying CLICK here. Understand something else as well, in almost any contract law accept copyrights and EULA's require that both parties have some equal ability to alter and defend its interests in the negotiation of the contract. If the contract is too distorted, its tossed out of court. Ruben
I don't agree that it is as close as you say. ebay: "Content When you give us content, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise the copyright, trademark, publicity, and database rights (but no other rights) you have in the content, in any media known now or in the future." Ebid Red added for emphasis. Not in Ebay and covers my question. Jim
it seems more restrictive, not less restrictive. They both suck. They'r basically saying they can take your trademark, amoung other things, which is BS. Ruben
