eBay 1868 nickel: "EXTREME DOUBLING" or extreme fake?

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  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    1868 EXTREME DOUBLING Shield Nickel -- MAKE US AN OFFER! #O2481

    I'm not finding this one especially plausible. Check out the C and S in CENTS -- I haven't seen that sort of "broken-off pieces" look in either legit or fake coins. Does it look familiar to anyone else?

    And yet, this looks like a legitimate seller. And I'm running on way too little sleep.
     
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  3. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Interesting. These are both known varieties for Shield Nickels - have a look at the Reverse of 1868 hub varieties here:

    http://www.shieldnickels.net/top20/reverseOf68.html

    The reverse linked here is FS-902, and PCGS attributes it. The obverse is the former (don't know what they're calling it today) FS-003.8. See one here:

    http://coins.ha.com/itm/shield-nick...-20518.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    Near as I can tell, those two dies aren't known together on the same coin. Interesting.

    And yeah, the seller is legit. I watch his Lincolns.
     
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  4. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    The coin appears to be genuine.
    Shield Nickels are known for doubled dies like that.
     
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  5. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Looks good to me
     
  6. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    Most likely real, but guarantee they want accept offer. I've tried to buy some of their stuff that was over priced made offer even explained why I felt it was more than fair rejected every time.
     
  7. Grass Man

    Grass Man Member

    I used to buy a lot of his stuff. He'll accept an offer about $3.00 below his asking price and that's about it. He's high, but he's got a lot of inventory and he is legit.
     
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  8. Tim Lackie Jr

    Tim Lackie Jr Active Member

    He accepts returns. Haha!
     
  9. Grass Man

    Grass Man Member

    This pattern is specifically listed in the CPG and is one of the more common 1868, reverse of 68 patterns. As someone has pointed out, this is pattern 2 of the 5 or 6 variations of the reverse of this coin. I haven't previously seen one with a DDO, but there is little in the shield nickel set that would surprise me. Check it with the Shield Nickel Viewer by Howard Spindell.
     
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  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The reverse variations of the rev of 68 are the result of a hub that was breaking down in stages. All of the rev of 68 dies were made with this same hub, so it is very possible to have multiple reverse dies for each hub stage. That would mean multiple obv dies paired with each rev stage. With all the DDO 1868 dies it would not surprise me to be able to find one with each of the rev stages.
     
  11. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    This is why I love posting here. Thanks, everybody!
     
  12. howards

    howards Shield Nickel Nut

    This is a genuine coin with a two-broken-letter reverse as previous posters have noted. The DDO variety is not listed in CPG or Fletcher (it is not FS-003.8). I have it catalogued as S2-1011. It is also CONECA 23-O-IV.

    @Conder101: Yes, there are 1868 DDOs paired with one through four broken letters. And one with the transitional between 1 broken letter and 2 broken letters.
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    legit error, obv DDO
     
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