Duo of Charles I

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by GregH, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    Not quite ancient, but the ancients forum is my home, and I know others here are fans of old English coins, so I thought I'd share this. I love big English coins, and I recently scored this awesome duo of Charles I. If you could sum up my collection - it's the portrait series of rulers of Rome, Byzantium and England.

    Charles I hammered silver half-crown: CI readl crown obv.JPG CI real crown rev.JPG And shilling:


    CI half crown obv.JPG
    CI half crown rev.JPG
    I'm keen to see hammered English silver, so please share :)
     
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  3. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Very nice and much better than the ones I owned until a few years ago when I dispersed my English hammered silver collection..

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    I had moved to collecting Cnut by that stage. Now sadly all gone. Here is one of the Cnuts....

    Cnut - Short Cross Penny

    Obv:- CNVT RECX, Diademed bust left holding sceptre
    Rev:- FERDEIN ON EOR, Short cross voided; in centre, a circle enclosing a pellet
    Minted in York (EOR by moneyer Farthein (FERDEIN) A.D. 1029-1035/6
    Reference:- North 790

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  4. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member


    Still, very nice big chunky coins of Charles. The immaculate ones cost thousands, so i'm content to have honest wear examples. I don't have Cnut yet, but he's on my wish-list.
     
  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Awesome OP-example, Smeag ... very cool (sadly, I don't have any of these types)
     
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  6. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    interesting coins...what are the time periods for these coins ?
     
  7. GregH

    GregH Well-Known Member

    17th century. Charles I reigned from 1625 to 1649.
     
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  8. tulipone

    tulipone Well-Known Member

    Greg - that is a nice half-crown. I find it amusing that it was a capital offence to clip coins, but still they did. I'm never sure if that tiny chunk of silver that was clipped off was worth the risk of the gallows, understanding that you clip a lot of coins you get a lot of clippings.

    How much silver would make the risk worthwhile? How many half crowns would the average worker own bearing in mind it would have been a significant lump of money and therefore how many could he clip?

    Yours appears to be 1641-1643 minted in Tower and a fantastic bit of history.
     
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  9. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    Lovely crown! I'm also working on a portrait series of English monarchs, but focusing on the Angevins at the moment (and getting easily distracted by their continental domains...). I just returned from a trip to England and it has got me itching to buy some of the later stuff...
     
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  10. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    VERY NICE !!! I'm a bit tempted to collect a few .....
     
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  11. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Great coins Greg!
     
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  12. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice coins, I like them alot. Nice portraits on both.
     
  13. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    OK - I'll play!
    Here are some Tudor ones from my collection:
    Edward VI Shilling S2482 with "y" mintmark - 1551
    Philip and Mary Sixpence S2505 dated 1554
    Henry VIII Groat S2337E mintmark Pheon - 1526-1544

    Edward VI Shilling.jpg Philip and Mary Sixpence.jpg Henry VIII Groat.jpg
    Henry VIII was, of course, the father of both Edward VI and Mary I. Edward died in his teens to be succeeded by his elder sister - the first crowned Queen of England. In between was the shortest reigned monarch of all - Lady Jane Grey a cousin of Edward's and Protestant (Mary was Catholic) and so put forward as a safer choice. The people wouldn't have it and Jane was deposed after just 9 days without being crowned and later beheaded.
    Philip, who married Mary, was king of Spain and his appearance on the coinage was highly controversial - hence very few of these survive. When Mary died, Elizabeth took the throne and Philip lost his seat. He later tried to regain England for the Catholic world with the ill fated Spanish Armada in 1588.
    I hope you enjoy!
     
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  14. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    I have no old English coins, but these 2 are very intriguing, nice obverses on both coins.
     
  15. tulipone

    tulipone Well-Known Member

    I would very much like to own your P&M 6d. I'm not sure I have seen one before.
     
  16. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    I'm sure you would! :)
    Sadly this one is not for sale. They are extraordinarily difficult to come by, though a Metal detectorist friend picked up a Philip and Mary Shilling in even better condition a few years back. She won't part with it either!
     
  17. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    fabulous coins, I lke them very much

    I can only contribute with a Lizzy I° sixpence image

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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    VERY nice coins and tie-ins... makes a nice set!

    My only English Medieval... (at this point)
    England - Elizabeth 1 - 1558-1603 AR Shilling Obv-Rev.JPG
    Elizabeth I Shilling

    England - Elizabeth 1 AR Sixpence 3rd-4th issue crescent mintmark Obv-Rev.JPG
    Elizabeth I Sixpence
     
  19. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Henry V penny
    henry V_opt.jpg
     
  20. Bighorn

    Bighorn New Member

     
  21. Bighorn

    Bighorn New Member

    Just read a biography of William Marshall called "The Greatest Knight" that was about the Anvegin period (not a coin book). Great book with lots of discussion of common life including some mention of coinage.
     
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