Dream Coin 1922 Matte Proof Dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Tater, Mar 23, 2009.

  1. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    I was just checking out Peace Dollars on Heritage and I see that in an upcoming auction they have two proof peace dollars for sale. I'll never be able to afford either one of them, but it is nice to see the two in auction and look at the photos and compare. I just wanted to share because I was impressed by the coins and they are both dream coins for me.

    1922 Matte Proof
    http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?SaleNo=1124&LotIdNo=9477&type=&ic=

    1921 Satin Proof
    http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?SaleNo=1124&LotIdNo=9476&type=&ic=
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I'm dreamin' too Tater. That '21 is a real beauty. Thanks for sharing....:smile
     
  4. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    Great Coins! I like the 1921 too. And wow did you see the price jump from 2002 - 2006 on the 1922 at auction , more than doubled :bigeyes:.
     
  5. FarmerB

    FarmerB Senior Member

    I was getting my check book out when I realized 'I'm not a big Peace collector'!:goofer:
     
  6. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    Ya, I like the surfaces on the 21. It looks awesome. I also like the details on that 22. I mean look at the detail in the hair and the fullness of the check. Oh and the feathers on the eagle are not shabby either. All in all I'd love to find a business strike with this kind of detail. They exist, I just need more patience.
     
  7. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    Heritage certainly handles some amazing coins.
     
  8. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    I was getting my check book out when I realized 'I'm not a billionaire'! :rolleyes:
     
  9. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Hubba Hubba! :eek:
     
  10. ranchhand

    ranchhand Coin Hoarder

    wow, really nice!
     
  11. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    well i was getting my check book when i realized i dont need doubles in this economy :D
     
  12. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    loss for words brother leadfoot :D
     
  13. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    your an elitiest
     
  14. angiebingham008

    angiebingham008 New Member

    tater can you please help me. i have a 1922 peace coin and have no clue as to if it is satin or matte finish and where mint was. it sems as though a s or 2 is under the word one on the back. If you can help in anyway. i can email you pics if you will send address

    Angie if people wish to contact you they can do so via the message system here :) It is never a good idea to post your email on a open forum
     
  15. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Angie,

    On your thread with your questions about the same coin I told you your coin was minted in San Francisco. It is a Business Strike coin (i.e., meant for circulation). It is not a Proof coin so it is neither a satin finish or Matte Proof. If you can post photos (on your thread) perhaps we can help you determine your coin's grade and value.
     
  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    One more thing Angie. Not a good idea to post that e-mail addy....
     
  17. Texas John

    Texas John Collector of oddments

    I know that we all have different tastes and values, but I simply don't understand why so many people like Heritage. They just seem so big and soulless, and have commoditized our noble hobby as if they're selling so many apples. They could have the one piece I need to complete a series, and I'd rather stare at that hole for all time than buy from them. The written instructions I've left for my wife explicitly say sell nothing to Heritage - coins, stamps, currency, even old Coca-Cola bottles (yeah, I collect them too.).

    Again, I know we're all different, and I mean no offense to the many of you who value your dealings with Heritage; it's just my opinion.
     
  18. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    For some, Heritage's website is their only interaction with 'em, so sure it seems soulless. It's just technology.

    Catch up to them at a major show. They always have a table. Chat 'em up. Get to know 'em. I'm confident you'll agree they have plenty of soul.

    Some very, very wonderful "coin peeps" work at Heritage. Some quite scholarly, all helpful and friendly.

    Sure, they're big... but somebody has to do it. Size enables them to handle a very wide variety of material - many thousands of coins every month. It's definitely a "something for everyone" kinda deal. Somebody has to handle The Big Ones.
     
  19. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    This points out why coins like this are so instructive and educational. It illustrates why people should look closely at coins in hand which they know they can't afford... yet.

    These two coins do a great job of illustrating how weakly struck Peace dollars are. If all one ever sees are the average coins flying around, that becomes the norm - and the best one you have ever seen becomes the ceiling.

    It's good to bust through that ceiling, and these proofs do just that.

    As Tater pointed out, there is much more detail than on a business strike. The legends alone are conspicuously superior.

    I've never seen a business strike with anywhere near this kind of strike. It's possible there are none - the Mint didn't basin these dies, and they are routinely poorly struck.

    Does anyone know if the Mint used the same dies for these few proofs and the business strikes, or were the proof dies used only for proofs ?
     
  20. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Per Breen, they were only used for the Proofs, however...


    I do faintly remember reading somewhere that some business strikes were made.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    1922 High Relief Peace dollars (business strikes) were minted, over 35,000 of them. You can read a bit about them here - http://www.pcgs.com/books/silver-dollars/Chapter18Listings-006.aspx

    There is one that I am aware of, turned up a few years ago, and placed in an NGC slab at MS63 I believe it was.
     
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