I think I just answered my own question, a doubled die coin would not be doubled on both sides. My next question is are double struck coins ever part of Vam lists or only considered errors?
There is a very informative link (stickie) about double die vs double strike at the top of the error forum Click >HERE<
Not any that I am aware of, errors are a whole different ball game. Some are just neat curiosities, some command very large premiums. Machine doubling is usually in the nice, but little or no premium arena.
Thanks Becky for bursting my bubble. I own an 1895 s Morgan Dollar with really cool doubling, I was hoping it was worth something.
The coin is XF40 but I was hoping the cool doubling would make it worth more? I posted a question in the error forum asking if anyone knew if they were common or rare, either way I really like it. :smile
Prices for that coin in XF40 range from $650 to $1100. I'd say that is worth something. Post a pic of the coin - let's see what you are talking about and then maybe we can provide you with a better answer.
I appreciate the help as I have no real experience with errors, I will put some real nice pictures together for you next week.
Well I got the coin today in the mail, and it is NOT doubled. I do not know how the photo could be made to look like it did but it fooled me. I guess I do not have my first error after all.
Photos do some strange things. I've taken many photos of coins and many times the photo appeared to have marks, doubling, letters of numbers vanished, etc. I run to check out the coin in real life with a strong magnifier and nothing like that at all. Occational changes in lighting has actually made shadows on higher letters or numbers that come out to be doubling effects. Taking a photo of a coin inside a slab on an angle can also create doubling. I've noticed taking a photo on a slight angle also can cause a double effect. Letters and numbers and even figures can be warped slightly by lighting and not done intentionally. However, if you know how to do just that there is always someone out there that things they are getting something worth lots for very little. Practice doing the same thing and put the coin up for sale yourself.
I'm more concerned about the coin itself than I am about the error possibility. Is it an 1895-S ? Does it grade XF40 ? Is it slabbed or raw ?
Yes it is an 1895 s XF40 and all original. I really do not believe in the whole slab thing, and only buy a coin based on my opinion of grade. This coin was originally slabbed ICG XF40 but now it is in a NTC holder graded XF40. I think the owner thought he could get a better grade and also put the family name on the holder but the coin is what it is XF40 and that cannot be changed no matter what holder you put it in. I have gone through over thirty 1895 s Morgan’s this year and all the TPG's companies have over graded coins even PCGS. I would have to say I find PCGS the most accurate so far with NGC and ICG next and ANACS following behind. But I have got some great deals on a few no name brands that were actually graded correctly and this being one. :thumb:
Errors, since by definition are unintentional, are hard to determine rarity on. Educated guesses can be made based on how many of a type of error are discovered. Basically determining value of an error depends on how rare the error is, how interesting it is (subjective, but some errors get a lot of permium to them if lots of people want them, while some errors, even though rare, nobody much cares about), the base condition of the coin, etc. Modern errors, due to better quality control and more modern equipment, tend to be a lot more rare than older errors. I haven't found any errors myself, but do have a few I bought, mostly off-centers which don't cost too much usually, as it's a fairly common error (relative to coins with errors, not realtive to base mintages). I always dream of finding a rare mule error, like the 2000 state quarter obverse/Sacagawea reverse that first got found in a stamp vending machine, lol... ever since I heard of that error, I've always checked my change from the stamp machine carefully. Anyway so as not to derail the thread... an 1895S would bwe a great find, even with no error at all...
