Don't drain that marsh: Slaughter in ancient Sicily

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  1. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Kamarina was an ancient Greek colony in Sicily. The city was protected from invasion by a marsh which made a siege of the city almost impossible. However, in the late 5th Century the city began to be plagued by a mysterious illness. The people started to associate the illness with the marsh, and consulted the town oracle about draining it. The oracle told the city leaders not to drain the marsh, and that the plague would pass with time. But the city leaders ignored the Oracle and drained the marsh anyway.

    Soon, Carthagenians swooped on the city and sieged it with the aid of the newly drained marshland. They broke into the city and massacred every living inhabitant. The coin below was minted shortly before these events, so the people who held it might have been the victims of their politicians' hubris. I wonder what the last poor sucker who held this coin thought about his leaders as the Carthagenians prepared to strike him down? Probably what a lot of us think about our current lot of politicians, no matter which country we are in.

    kama_6.jpg SICILY. Kamarina.
    Æ Onkia, 13mm, 1.2g, 2h; c. 420-405 BC.
    Obverse: Facing gorgoneion.
    Rev.: KAMA; Owl standing right, head facing, holding lizard in talon; pellet (mark of value) in exergue.
    Reference: CNS 4; HGC 2, 552.

    Incidentally, this is my second gorgoneion as I do have one from the Black Sea area.

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    Post any relevant coins
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice new coin @Sallent. I saw that and was tempted, but too many irons in the fire. My one coin from there was minted at the same time as your new coin:
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    SICILY, KAMARINA
    Æ Tetras
    OBV: Helmeted head of Athena left
    REV: KAMA, owl standing left, head facing, grasping lizard; three pellets in exergue
    Struck at Kamarina, Sicily, 420-405 BC
    2.9g; 15.2 mm
    Calciati 33; BMC 40; SNG ANS 1229; SNG Cop 169
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Very nice! I'm looking for a facing-gorgoneion owl & lizard Kamarina bronze to complete the mini-set of the main types:

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    SICILY, Kamarina. 420-405 BCE. AE tetras, 3.34 gm. Large head of Athena left, wearing crested helmet with wings. Owl standing left, with lizard in talon; KAMA (retrograde) upward in right field; three dots in exergue. Westermark / Jenkins 198 (see FIG. Pl. 35 / 198.24), SNG ANS 1230 Calciati III no. 28/4 (dotted-border type).

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    SICILY, Kamarina. 420-405 BCE. AE tetras, 3.11 gm. Head of Athena right, wearing winged Phrygian helmet; dotted border. KAMA (legend from top to bottom), with owl standing left, lizard in talons; three dots in exergue. Westermark / Jenkins 202, SNG ANS -., Calciati III No. 39.

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/leapin-lizards-kamarina-tetras.267073/
     
  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Cool score. Like TIF, I'm also wanting one with a gorgoneion obverse.

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    SICILY, Kamarina
    Rare (with owl spreading wings). AE Tetras. Circa 420-405 BC. 3.39g, 14.8mm. Westermark & Jenkins Period 3, 204; CNS 40; HGC 2, 550. O: Helmeted head of Athena left; olive spray to left. R: [K-A-]MA, Owl standing facing, wings spread, grasping lizard; three pellets (mark of value) in exergue.
    Ex Camerata Romeu Collection

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    SICILY, Kamarina
    AR Litra. 0.66g, 11mm. Circa 461-440/35 BC. SNG Oxford 1689. O: Nike flying right; to lower right, swan standing right; all within olive wreath. R: K[AMA]RI Athena standing left, wearing aegis and holding spear in right hand; to right, shield.
     
  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Love the 'Kamarina' posts guys!!!!
     
  7. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Did I mention the coin is an Ex: @John Anthony ? I don't know how he keeps convincing me that I need all his coins, but I have my suspicion that John Anthony's identity is not what he claims to be. I have narrowed it down to two suspects.

    Sallent's list of suspects as to JA's real identity.

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    Hypnotoad

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    Kaa

     
  8. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    wish i had a relevant coin. :(

    but that's an interesting story about the kamarina marsh and a neat little ne AE!
     
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  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

  10. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Nice one. I need a couple of coins of Sicily as my mother's family is from there.
     
  11. Puckles

    Puckles Cat Whisperer

    Very interesting story Salient. Wasn't even aware that the place existed before I read this. Great coins, too. This draining the swamp thing is a lesson from history that needs careful consideration. Swamps certainly have their detractors but, as this story shows, they can sometimes be the only thing that stands between civilisation and barbarism. The moral of the story? Though something may smell bad and make you sick, it may also be your friend. Don't underrate your swamp!
     
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have a few from Kamarina Funky-Town:

    Sicily Kamarina AE 15mm 3.4g 420-405 BCE Athena Owl Lizard 3 dots Sear Gk 1063.JPG
    Sicily Kamarina AE 15mm 3.4g 420-405 BCE Athena Owl Lizard 3 dots Sear Gk 1063

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    SICILY Kamarina Æ Onkia 13mm 1.5g 420-405 BC Gorgon tongue - KAMA owl r lizard in claw pellet in ex SNG Münch 411

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    Sicily Kamarina AR litra 11mm 0.56g 461-440 BCE Nike flying swan below within wreath Athena spear shield SNG ANS 1212-6
     
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  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Gorgons:

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    Ionia Klazomenai 480-400 BC AR Drachm Pentobol 3.5g 13mm Forepart winged boar r gorgoneion incuse sq Cf SNG Copenhagen 12 Rare

    Etruria Populonia 3rd C BCE AR 20 As 8.1g Metus Blank HN 152.jpg
    Etruria Populonia 3rd C BCE AR 20 As 8.1g Metus Blank HN 152
     
  14. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I love coins with a dark history like that. Thanks for sharing!
     
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  15. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Here's mine from a Triskeles V-auction
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