Does it appeared cleaned?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by dog_pound, Apr 18, 2023.

  1. dog_pound

    dog_pound Active Member

    Looking for a few opinions on this 2 cent, I am bidding on the coin but feel it was cleaned because of a little "weird" halo appearance

    Opinions welcome to approx value
     

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I agree. Looks cleaned. I would hold out for a better one. ;)How much are you willing to spend, if you don't mind me asking? :)
    I see several just under $100 graded XF40/45 on Ebay.
     
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  4. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Cleaned for sure, it is a common date and nice examples can be found at reasonable prices.
     
  5. dog_pound

    dog_pound Active Member

    I would spend that for a quality coin and will probably end up with something like that . But I would also spend less for an uncleaned version for an album even at a much lower grade as I get a certain satisfaction and enjoyment in raw coins not found with slabbed ones
     
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  6. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Your choice, but this is a very nice piece and well struck and above average detail, and could be improved with a professional enhancement. If you are confident in your ability to do so yourself, then I do not see a downside.

    Cleaned at one time? Most likely. But, deciphering same via a 'weird" halo appearance? I don't think so.

    Place a 5X (or if desired and preferred, a 10X) on the screen. You may see benefits to the piece.
     
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  7. dog_pound

    dog_pound Active Member

    It was late and "weird halo" was all I had. I was referring to the fields and what i took as an unnaturally cleaner area. I agree the coin is sharp and has some definite draw. I am attempting to determine at what cost it becomes a downside
     
  8. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I assumed it was a self-description; I viewed the fields particularly and did not see a downside (maybe different in hand but I doubt it). 90% of the story is the Obverse. I don't think there is anything that is unnatural about the visual appearance, short of viewing the piece in hand.

    I don't normally opine on the $, but if forced to do so, I peg it at $45-$60 wholesale.
    As a very nice representative piece for an album, this piece is a satisfying choice. A $100? No. That would certainly be a sight unseen downside. Maybe you can pm ToughCoins and/or Paddy54 here, and they might have a thought or 2 that helps better.
     
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  9. dog_pound

    dog_pound Active Member

    I appreciate the weigh in, kinda of what I believed as well, and so far we are about at that price and if stays there I think I would be happy at that.

    With its age, it being raw, and an auction I expect some cleaning at some point in its lifetime but thought it looked pretty sharp and not harshly handled
     
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  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Definitely cleaned
     
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  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Yes, cleaned. But in pretty good technical shape. Just missing the icing on the cake in a manner of speaking.
     
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  12. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    Cleaned, but i don't see a bunch of hairlines. A little less objectionable, imo.
     
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  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Guessing it’s cleaned.
     
  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I like raw. Slabs are to big
     
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  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Ya but
     
  16. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately it has been cleaned. It’s too bad because the coin is unusually sharp for a circulated piece.

    Over time some of the original color might return. I used to have some old coin envelopes I used to retone coins like this, but the process took three or four years.
     
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  17. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I can actually live with some hairlines from a light wiping that may leave those. It's the stripping away of the surface that takes the life out of it that's the big drawback to me. That's irreversible. You never, ever get that back. You've a flat, dead coin. No bounce in the lighting, no nothing.
     
  18. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    I only have 2 two cent coins. An 1864 Large Size and an 1870 Two-Cent Piece, 1st Year "In God We Trust" Large Size. I'm not into the older coins. These were from my father's collection. One day I'm going to get a camera and picture my coins.
     
  19. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I remember an episode of The Waltons where grandpa had a two cent piece that he was selling because the family needed money. The script said that he sold it to Ike, the storekeeper, for $50. I had to laugh because those coins were worth a tiny fraction of that in the 1930. The first edition of The Red Book, copyright 1946, had 1964 and '65 coins listed for $1.00 in Unc. The most expensive coin was the 1864 Small Mott Proof, which is a great rarity with an estimated 5 known, for $125.
     
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  20. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    I've had decent luck getting coins like that to grow a new skin by leaving them sit on my nightstand for a couple years or so. I've never been able to unscratch a coin, though.
     
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  21. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    VF-30 details, harshly cleaned. The motto is too weak to make XF, imo. The "halo" effect suggests it may have been whizzed decades ago but the photo is too far out of focus to be certain.
     
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