Does anyone recognize these strikes?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by steven483, Apr 21, 2024.

  1. steven483

    steven483 New Member

    I have a 1909 wheat cent with what looks like masonic stamps.
     

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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I don’t recognize them as anything but damage. They are not Masonic in nature that I know of. A Masonic mark is very distinct and those types are called counter stamps. They are added to the coin after it leaves the mint.
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  4. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Welcome to coin talk.
    The photo of obverse is too fuzzy to see an identifying mark on it.
    It would be considered a novelty cent if it does.
     
  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The images don't show any detail.
     
  6. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Some ideas on photography -

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  7. steven483

    steven483 New Member

     
  8. steven483

    steven483 New Member

    Thats what I thought,but as you can see on the back there is no damage to the wheat symbol on the back side of the coin, so it could not have been done after mint with damaging the coin features.
     
  9. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    It's bent, that is absolute proof that it was done after minting. The coin can't be bent while it is in the dies. Whatever struck the obverse did so while the coin was on a softer surface, like lead or wood, which allowed the coin to bend rather than flatten the details on the reverse.
     
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  10. steven483

    steven483 New Member

     
  11. steven483

    steven483 New Member

    It is not bent at all. the coin on the right in the pic is the one I am referring to, the coin on the left is another 1909 which has VDB
     
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  12. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    I think some clearer photos would be helpful to define the condition of the coins you posted. No one wants to say what has happened to your coins without visible proof.
    Even when Masonic symbols are stamped onto a coin it is considered Post Mint Damage and only appeals to a few collectors that like novelty coins.
    Here are a few common ones for comparison.
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  13. steven483

    steven483 New Member

     
  14. steven483

    steven483 New Member

    It's the coin on the right, not the one on the left and it is completely flat.
     
  15. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    This is the coin on the left. It is bent/damaged.
    The coin on the right is damaged as well. Neither coin left the mint looking like this.
     
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  16. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    It appears damaged. Perhaps used as a shim at some point.
     
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  17. steven483

    steven483 New Member

    pic of the back of the coin
     

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  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    How can you say that the coin is not damaged?
    It has a rim ding to start and 4-5 dimple/dents in the reverse. The coin did not leave the mint looking that way.
    100% PMD.
     
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  19. steven483

    steven483 New Member



    Front of coin
     

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  20. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Every image shows a damaged coin. Why show images of two different coins in the same thread? Both are damaged and have no value.
     
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  21. nwfdub

    nwfdub Member

    As the title questions recognition of the strike, I'll guess a Stanley #3 nail punch, in the warehouse, by the employee.
     
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