Do You Think This Is A Genuine Clip?

Hi, I'm Kinda new to CoinTalk although I've been reading the posts frequently. this is the first time I've tried an attachment. I hope it works.

I've had this cent for a long time, probably over 30 years. I never really thought it may be a genuine clip untill recently when I came across it again.I photographed it with a newer cent to show how it fit into the curve, the edges are very smooth. sorry if my scanner didn't photograph the last pic very well, I tried to show the edge.

Do you think it maybe real?

any feed back would be appreciated, Jim

 

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Looks like a genuine straight clip to me.

 

Thanks, I thought it might be . I threw it in a box with some novelty coins a long time ago. I Just recently got interested in error type coins. I remembered that I received this in my change, never did receive anything similar since.

 

Hey Jimm1514,

Welcome to Coin Talk. This article is from another post on Coin Talk. I hope it helps you. I have to say, I have found some fairly rare error coins in circulation but have yet to find a clip. A good rule of thumb, and my error coin mantra, you have nothing until you can prove otherwise. You know what I mean?

Happy hunting,

Michael

 

Thanks Michael
That was an interesting and helpful article.

Jim

 

I'm not sure. It doesn't look curved enough for a curved clip, but it is concave. Things to look for include: 1) metal flow in design elements that border the clip, 2) a weakening of the design rim at the pole opposite the clip (Blakesley effect), 3) taper and fadeout of the design rim as it approaches the clip, 4) a cut-and-tear texture on the clipped edge itself.

 

Thanks Mike
after you and Michael gave me something to look for. I took a closer look.

the coin I have does have a thin layer of tearing texture on the edge, although still smooth.

the text and rim looks as if their is a little bit of metal flow, it certainly is weaker and flat.
(I attached new scan)

the polar rim is just slightly broader, but not by much.

it seems to have two of the three characteristics. The cent still has some nice color after sitting in a box for so long.

thanks again guys.
Jim

 

I can see now that the curvature is normal. It's definitely an authentic curved clip.

 

I also agree with Mike, A curved clip. Although calling these clips is a little confusing to some as folks think the coin is struck and then "clipped" by the machinery after the coin is made. They are better called "incomplete Planchet errors" as a planchet improperly cut works it's way into the coining chamber and the result is a coin like this one.

Have Fun,
Bill

 

I still prefer "clip" over "incomplete planchet". The latter term is unwieldy. How would you describe an incomplete clip? An incomplete incomplete planchet? How would you describe a double clip? A double incomplete planchet? How would you describe a straight clip? A straight incomplete planchet? How about a bowtie clip? A bowtie incomplete planchet? As you can see, use of the ostensibly more accurate term is awkward in the extreme. While "clip" is technically misleading, it is short, evocative, and very adaptable.

 

Hi Mike,
I wasn't advocating the use of the term as I agree, "clip" is easier. I just remember when the real reason a "clip" became a clip was first explained to me as an incomplete planchet error, (many years ago, I had learned something new about the minting process. I also was very interested in the fact that the coin wasn't first minted and then clipped. As a kid, I thought that is what happened. I thought that the die "clipped" the coin due to some strange happening after the coin was struck.

Incomplete Planchet error although more accurate a description of the error is very unweildy. I was just trying to explain what really happens. I still call them "clips"

Thanks,
Bill