Do you think I could get a star?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by schatzy, Dec 19, 2009.

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Do you think it will get a star!!

  1. Yes

    2 vote(s)
    7.4%
  2. No

    14 vote(s)
    51.9%
  3. Maybe

    11 vote(s)
    40.7%
  1. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~

    Well every time I go through my toned Roosevelts, I always spend
    extra time looking at this coin. Do you think I could get a star?

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  3. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    It's possible but they are grading tough now a days I hear...

    It sure is a pretty coin either way.
     
  4. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I don't think it would. Stars are given typically for coins with exceptional eye appeal...and it is expected that proofs already have exceptional eye appeal. So, it would take a lot for a proof to get a star and I don't think this coin has enough. If it was a business strike, I would say you have a chance...but with a proof I don't think you do.

    It is a beautiful coin though.
     
  5. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    This coin isn't striking! Yes it is a very nice coin, but I believe that there are better candidates out there, more deserving of a star.
     
  6. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~

    I was bidding on this coin on eBay but it just went to high for my blood.
    It was graded Proof-67 "Star"!! It is a great looking coin!!
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  7. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Maybe it's just the way the pic is taken, but to me it looks like the die was on it's last legs because it looks as though the coin has the radiating striations going on. I don't believe they give out stars for coins struck with worn dies, but I could be wrong.
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  8. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    This coin has much deeper toning and better eye appeal that yours. ..at least based on the photos shown. It has exceptional eye appeal even for a proof. I don't think yours does. Proofs are harder to get stars.
     
  9. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~

    They sure are!! I was wondering if the sellers picture was juiced at all.
     
  10. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~

    It is just the way a proof looks when it taken with the macro lens. Look at the other coin that got a star, it has the same marks.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I sure wouldn't risk trying it, I think the coin is over-graded as it is. It might get a star, but in a 65 or 66 slab.
     
  12. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    I thought only NGC give out star, don't think I ever saw PCGS star.
     
  13. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Yes you are right.
    This coin is graded by PCGS, and he wants to cross it over to NGC to see if he can get PF67*
     
  14. schatzy

    schatzy ~Roosie Fanatic~

    I never do the cross, I always crack the coin out of the holder and send it in raw.
     
  15. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Be careful... LOL
     
  16. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I would give the coin a * at the 66 grade, but not the 67 grade because of the slight disturbance on Roosie's cheek. I like the coin at a regular 67 in any plastic (because of eye appeal, as I agree with GDJMSP in that technically, I don't think it's a 67). Pretty coin.
     
  17. Breakdown

    Breakdown Member

    I am not much of an NGC guy and one reason is the star system, which I do not like. I think eye appeal should be part of the numerical grade and so I think the star just throws confusion into the grade (I'm guessing PCGS thought the eye appeal sufficient to merit a 67 despite the cheek, not sure I agree).
    Anyway, nice coin. I don't know if NGC takes die erosion into account for the star (ie, the die erosion might prevent a star), but there is a good amount of it on this coin. Nice toning.
     
  18. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I for one am amazed that you guys can grade the surfaces of a proof coin from a photograph. That is a skill that I don't think I will ever master.;) I rather like the starburst effect on proof coins. I think it gives it character and have seen very high graded coins in both TPG slabs that show this so I don't think it detrimentally affects the grade.

    As for the original question, I love those colors on coins. Cherry red is awesome. However, you have seen enough star coins to know when you have a "no brainer". If you are asking us for our opinion, it would indicate that you think it will star but have some doubts. Since the star designation requires unanimous approval, I think it is a coin flip as to whether or not it stars. It will only take one grader to say no.

    I think you should pose this exact same question on the PCGS forum. I wanna know if the kool-aid drinkers predict NGC PF68* since you are crossing from PCGS to NGC as opposed to the downgraders on CT.
     
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  20. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    :bigeyes:

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  21. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Meh. It's just a guess after all. :)
     
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