Do US coins have KM numbers?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by karrlot, Feb 12, 2006.

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  1. karrlot

    karrlot Senior Member

    I have three Krause catalogs (18th, 19th, and 20th century). I may be blind, but the only KM numbers I see anywhere are some for coins minted in 1792. What am I missing?
     
    karrlot, Feb 12, 2006
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  3. Becky

    Becky Darkslider

    You aren't missing anything, there are none. I don't have a clue why........:eek:
     
    Becky, Feb 12, 2006
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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Hmmmm - I don't know where you guys are looking, my Krause catalogs show KM #s for all US coins :confused:
     
    GDJMSP, Feb 12, 2006
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  5. Becky

    Becky Darkslider

    Really? I have the 2002 and I see no KM#'s.....curious....:confused:
     
    Becky, Feb 12, 2006
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  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    You pick the coin and I'll tell you where the KM # is.
     
    GDJMSP, Feb 12, 2006
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  7. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Both the 2005 and 2006 editions list Morgans as KM#110.

    (I sold my earlier editions, so I can't comment about them.)
     
    satootoko, Feb 12, 2006
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  8. karrlot

    karrlot Senior Member

    Mine is a 1999 edition. Strange.....
     
    karrlot, Feb 12, 2006
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    The oldest edition Krause I have is a 2002 - and it shows the KM #s for US coins. I believe that all editions do. I think you just aren't looking in the right place. Look more carefully, read the entire description. For US coins the KM # is sometimes off to the right rather the left like with most other coins.

    Pick a specific coin that you cannot see the KM # for. I'll look and hopefully be able to tell you exactly where the KM# is located for that coin.
     
    GDJMSP, Feb 12, 2006
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  10. Becky

    Becky Darkslider

    OK, how about a Sacagawea or a $2.50 gold quarter eagle?

    Page 1931.....here's a scan, I still don't see anything...


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    Becky, Feb 12, 2006
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    OK - how about those -

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    I honestly don't know what to tell you. But all of my Krause catalogs, 18th century, 19th century and 20th/21st centuries, - all of them list KM numbers for US coins. :confused:
     
    GDJMSP, Feb 13, 2006
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  12. Charles Brooks

    Charles Brooks Member

    <p>So...If Krause Catalogs are Krap and either steep way too high or dip way too low what or who exactly is the best at providing both KM identification as well as reliable grade and value speculation?<br></p>
     
    Charles Brooks, May 22, 2021
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  13. Charles Brooks

    Charles Brooks Member

    what is the purpose of this "KM" designation anyway? and who initiated it?
     
    Charles Brooks, May 22, 2021
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  14. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    You might do better starting your own thread for more responses. This thread died 15 years ago.
     
    expat, May 23, 2021
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  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Maybe so. But it appears it has been brought back to life :) And why start a new one when one already exist ?

    Your answers can be found here -
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Catalog_of_World_Coins
     
    GDJMSP, May 23, 2021
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  16. Charles Brooks

    Charles Brooks Member

    I keep running into this "what is the KM number of this coin?" and I never know the answer. I have been buying and selling coins for over ten years and this question has just started popping up from my customers about 6 months ago. Is it possible to check these numbers for free" The Krause book is high dollar and what ever happened to PCGS or NGC as a coin grading and pricing resource? All anybody wants to know is this KM stuff. So does anybody know why this is happening across the board? What is the major significance of this KM business?
     
    Charles Brooks, May 26, 2021
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  17. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Krause and Mischler started a Word Coin catalogue now owned by Krause publishing. I heard it was in financial trouble this year. They gave a number to each country's coin series. My 20th century catalog from 2019. 20210526_210316~2.jpg
     
    Razz, May 27, 2021
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  18. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Marketing campaign to sell catalogues?
     
    Marshall, May 27, 2021
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  19. manny9655

    manny9655 Well-Known Member

    KM numbers of US coins are all listed in the price lists of the Numismatic News and Coins magazines every month
     
    manny9655, May 27, 2021
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  20. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I'm afraid they're destined to go the way of Breen, Crosby/Levik, Frosard, Doughty, Crosby and McGirk numbers.
     
    Marshall, May 27, 2021
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  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If you're asking - can one access the Krause catalogs online ? I believe you can, but only if you pay for it. That said, it is pretty easy to look up the Krause number for pretty much any coin on Google. But usually that's about all you'll get, the Krause number.

    Yeah, the new editions are. But the previous editions, used copies in other words, are typically dirt cheap by comparison. And they are every bit as good as the brand new ones because none of the pertinent information ever changes in them.

    Well, in this regard Krause prices are just as worthless as the NGC and PCGS prices are. And as such should simply be ignored to begin with. There is no price guide, not a single one, that is worth the paper it is printed on !

    The significance is the information about the coins it contains. With rare exceptions the Krause catalogs contain the basic info like type, composition, mints, date ranges, design, mintage numbers (for most anyway), and major varieties, for every coin in the world ever minted from 1600 to date. No other coin catalog does this.
     
    GDJMSP, May 27, 2021
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