Do these issues raise value?

I have not seen prominent lines like this. There are two different coins here. Thank you for any knowledge.

 

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die cracks on them, it does add value.

 

Thank you.

 

but dont quit your day job!

 

Some value, but not much. Keep them for sure

 

As a general rule for a couple of Zlincolns? No...

Bidiots, newer collectors, and someone who may just happen to like a coin displaying certain cracks will sometimes pay up for them, and certain older types can bring fair and knowledgeable premiums in some cases, but before the great fishing site became an outlet for an insane amount of worthless junk, coins such as these were treated as what they really are. Very common and as having very little collector interest. This isn't to say there's anything wrong with looking for or collecting them, of course, but it's wrong and unfair for them to be portrayed as actually being "worth" any sort of premium.

 

As a general rule, unless they serve as variety markers that are sought after, or they're really dramatic, I would say die cracks are cool, but don't add much value or interest to the coin.

 

Thank you for all the info

 

I agree but be (Insider - the really black pot calling Books - the kettle, black ). I think they are neat and best of all they were FREE! As you know, this kind of "flyspeck" numismatics was very popular in the 1950's and 60's.

 

"flyspeck numismatics"
that's a new one to me

 

Decades old term used to describe the characteristics on many coins that often require a 16X hand lens to see. Also associated with micro things like a 197X 1C DDO-460!

BTW, I tried to see how old you were but nothing in your profile except you've been a member for much of this year; yet you are a "well-known member."

 

I'm also decades old, and recall 197x, such as 1976 Bicentennial toilet paper as a young lad. I started collecting change in the early 70's as an elementary school student strictly as a hobby to collect change and nothing more. I also collected paper to the disgrunge of my teachers who's writing paper would disappear, but that was more short lived.

 

Psh. Give me an 1861 O half with a, certain, die crack any day of the week

 

LOL, I think certain die cracks are the exception to that. I'd love to have an 1861-O WB-102. One of my dream coins.

 

But even in this case, the crack isn't what makes the coin special or valuable, but is simply an easy and well-known identifier. The OP examples have nothing noteworthy about them, and contrary to what has earlier been suggested, the cracks alone do not automatically mean they're worth more than an on par example without them.

Doug is correct though. Some do see crack as detracting flaws and prefer to avoid them, but along the same lines, depending on the coin/type, others feel they (at least sometimes) add character even if they don't warrant a higher price on their own.

 

You are right, the 1861-O WB-102 don't make the coin special...it's simply a marker to tie that coin to another piece. If there was some other way to do it...they would.

I tend to agree with @GDJMSP (yeah I know...weird right)...that die cracks can be considered a detraction. I personally would prefer my coins without them. I don't mind having a couple examples as a "novelty" but as I general rule I want my coins to be as flawless as I can find them. Die cracks are fun finds and interesting, but not what I look for in my nicer pieces. That said, I would make a very happy exception for the 1861-O half.

 

Whaaat?

You mean people actually collect them for their history?! And here I thought they were special cause some Johnny Reb dropped the die and broke it

 

Or better yet, used it to beat Billy Yank over the head with...

And if you keep in mind where we are.... my previous post will make sense. Sometimes things need to be made very clear, even if unnecessary for the person it's in response to.

 

Haha...now I understand why that coin is so famous.