Different Faces of Constantius I Chlorus

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  1. Al Kowsky

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  3. Al Kowsky

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    Calbrey, Wow :jawdrop:, your right. It's from the same workshop as my coin too :D. I paid an arm & a leg for my example 14 years ago :wacky:, but have no regrets about it ;).
     
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  4. Al Kowsky

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    R.C., I like your K V nummus from Antioch :happy:, great portrait with interesting beard. I'm still missing an Antioch nummus for my collection :(, but I'm patient.
     
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  5. Hrefn

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    Here is a MEMORIA FELIX which is postmortem, but it is from the London mint and Constantius did die in Britannia, so perhaps an accurate likeness. The portrait seems less stylized than some, at least to me.
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  6. DonnaML

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    My one coin of Constantius I Chlorus. Same type as the one @Al Kowsky posted, although I'm not sure I'd call it "brutish"!

    Constantius I Chlorus Caesar (father of Constantine I), Billon Follis, 296-297 AD, Heraclea Mint (3rd Officina). Obv. Laureate head right, FL VAL CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES / Rev. Genius wearing modius on head, standing left, nude, chlamys draped over left shoulder, holding cornucopiae in left hand and pouring libation from patera in right hand, GENIO POPV-L-I ROMANI; mintmark HT Γ[gamma] [Γ= 3rd Officina] in exergue. RIC VI Heraclea 18a (p. 531), Sear RCV IV 14061. 29 mm., 9.91 g.

    Constantius I Chlorus AE Follis Portrait & Genius Heraclea VF RIC 18a, jpg version.jpg
     
  7. Caesar_Augustus

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    Something quite exotic about the eastern mints. Here's one from Heraclea and one from Antioxia.

    Constantius I Chlorus
    AE Follis
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    296 - 297 A.D., Heraclea Mint, 1st Officina
    8.39g, 29.0mm, 12H

    Obverse: FL VAL CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES,
    Head of Constantius Chlorus, laureate, right

    Reverse: GENIO POPV-L-I ROMANI,
    Genius, wearing modius, nude, chlamys draped over left shoulder, standing left, pouring liquid from patera in right hand and holding cornucopiae in left hand

    Exergue: -/-//HTA

    Provenance: Ex. Budges-Beak eBay 2019

    Reference: RIC VI Heraclea 18a

    Constantius I Chlorus
    AE Follis
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    300 - 301 A.D., Antioch Mint, 2nd Officina
    9.57g, 25.0mm, 12H

    Obverse: FL VAL CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES,
    Head of Constantius Chlorus, laureate, right

    Reverse: GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI,
    Genius, wearing modius, nude, chlamys draped over left shoulder, standing left, pouring liquid from patera in right hand and holding cornucopiae in left hand

    Exergue: K/(B on V)//ANT

    Provenance: Ex. Savoca Blue 10th Auction, Lot 1878

    Reference: RIC VI Antioch 55a
     
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  9. Orange Julius

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    Great Constantius I coins everyone. I like this coin for the curly beard and that it’s from a mint way across the empire from where he was Caesar. Not quite as nice as Doug’s (great coin!) and from a different officina.
    ConstantiusIAlexandriaRICVI-31a.JPG
    Constantius I - Alexandria - RIC VI 31a
     
  10. Al Kowsky

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    Hrefn, Your memorial nummus is a very handsome coin in choice condition :happy:! I did a side by side comparison with my London Mint nummus & there are similarities. The facial hair is different but other features look close.
    Constantius comparison, London Mint.jpg
     
  11. Al Kowsky

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    Donna, Thanks for posting your Heraclea nummus :happy:. Your coin & my coin are a stark contrast in portrait styles :eek: despite being made at the same mint & officina.
    Constantius I Chlorus AE Follis Portrait & Genius Heraclea VF RIC 18a, jpg version.jpg
    Constantine I, Heraclea.jpg
    Your portrait is much softer & more naturalistic. It's hard to believe that the obverse dies were engraved by the same artist :smuggrin:. The reverse dies may very well have been done by the same engraver ;). If I was the foreman in that workshop I would have told the engraver who did my coin to "tone it down" :D.
     
  12. Al Kowsky

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    C.A., I like your K V nummus from Antioch :happy:. Constantius has a stern penetrating expression :nailbiting:.
     
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  13. Al Kowsky

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    Clavdivs, That's a handsome, high grade nummus from Cyzicus :happy:! I also have a nice looking nummus from that mint but from a different officina. Stylistically they are very similar ;).
    upload_2021-6-22_21-43-6.png 2491172-014, AK Collection.jpg
     
  14. Al Kowsky

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    O.J. That's an excellent example of a XX to I nummus from Alexandria, with great detail on the beard :happy:.
     
  15. Hrefn

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    That is a very interesting observation! The nose shares the qualities of the classic Roman nose, a very projected bridge, and a downward curved aquiline tip. It looks like Adrien Brody’s nose. Those two coin portraits would be twenty years apart, perhaps? upload_2021-6-23_6-34-52.jpeg
     
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  16. Al Kowsky

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    Hrefn, OMG :jawdrop:! You're right, they're look-alike matches :D.
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  17. zumbly

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    That's a wonderful portrait on that folles, @Al Kowsky! The one on my argenteus doesn't have quite as much character, but I do like beard curls.

    Constantius I - Argenteus Campgate.jpg
    CONSTANTIUS CHLORUS
    AR Argenteus. 3.35g, 19.6mm. Serdica mint, circa AD 305-306. RIC 11a (R4), unlisted officina Γ=3. O: CONSTANTIVS AVG, laureate head right. R: VIRTVS MILITVM, three-turreted campgate with seven layers and no doors; •SM•SDΓ• in exergue.

    His distinctive hawk nose is quite prominent on the antoninianus below.

    Constantius I - Antoninianus Trophy.jpg
    CONSTANTIUS CHLORUS
    AE Antoninianus. 3.73g, 24.8mm. Lugdunum mint, AD 295. RIC 648A; Cohen 302. O: CONSTANTIVS NOB C, radiate and draped bust right. R: VIRTVS AVGG, Trophy of arms with two captives seated at base; B in exergue.
     
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  18. Caesar_Augustus

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    Zumbly, that Constantius Antoninianus is such a great example of his fine nasal structure.

    What's the significance of the KV mint mark, Al? I just got the coin for the beard curls.
     
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  19. Al Kowsky

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    C.A., David Sear suggests that the K probably stands for retariffing the the follis at 20 denarii communes, & the V may refer to the revised valuation of the follis at 5 to the silver argenteus.
     
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  20. Al Kowsky

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    zumbly, Your argenteus has a magnificent portrait :jawdrop:, especially considering the size of the coin. The double denarius has an impressive portrait too :D.
     
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  21. ominus1

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    ..heck...no wonder i cant find a Con Chlorus nob caesar to complete my tetarchy set....cointalk members have them all! :mad::D..great coins all :)
     
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