Die Cracks in Unusual coin

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Dumanyu, Sep 17, 2007.

  1. Dumanyu

    Dumanyu World Coin Collector

    This coin (well Token) is an AH1250 (1834) Keping from Trumon, which is a state in northwest Sumatra. After photographing it to post on my forum, I noticed what could be a couple of Die Cracks on the Reverse. Am I wrong?
     

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  3. Dumanyu

    Dumanyu World Coin Collector

    Last image of ? Die Crack.
     

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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They look more like planchet defects than die cracks.
     
  5. Dumanyu

    Dumanyu World Coin Collector


    If I may ask, how can you tell the difference?
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    A die crack is a raised metal line above an evenly flat surface. A planchet defect shows two uneven surfaces with one higher than the other. And that's what it looks like in the pics.
     
  7. Dumanyu

    Dumanyu World Coin Collector

    Okay thanks for the information, as I don't know a heck of alot about errors.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That makes two of us :D
     
  9. Dumanyu

    Dumanyu World Coin Collector

    I put the question to Laz of World Coin Collecting forum, and after looking at the coin a little more closely, there are 3 more cracks in the coin, which lend me to think it was actually a shattered die. But who really knows?
     
  10. hamman88

    hamman88 Spare some change, sir?

    I think so too.
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Those are die cracks or at least the result of die cracks. The differing heights on either side of the crack is because part of the die is sinking so the field of the die is actually at two different levels. When a piece of the die sinks far enough that the details become weakened but still visible then we call it a retained cud. (The wedge shaped piece from 6:00 to 8:00 is sinking and begining to form the retained cud.) If the piece of the die falls away completely then it forms a full cud. Usually you get retained cuds and differing die levels like this if it is the anvil die that has cracked because the collar holds the pieces in place and does not permit them to fall away.
     
  12. Dumanyu

    Dumanyu World Coin Collector

    Conder,
    Thanks, that is the best explaination I've heard about die cracks. Much appreciated.
     
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