Die Crack

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by 50 CENT, Jul 20, 2008.

  1. 50 CENT

    50 CENT Member

    Long time Lurker, first time poster.
    Question as it pertains to coins with die cracks.
    If two coins are graded MS 63 but one of the coins exhibits evidence of a cracked die. Which coin is more valuable?
    Does having a VAM make it more valuable?

    Thanks...
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Howdy 50 CENT - Welcome to the Forum !!

    As a general rule die cracks add no value to a coin. But there are some VAMs that do have more value and die cracks are sometimes one of the diagnostics used to identify a particular VAM.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Welcome to the forum, and what Doug said.
     
  5. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Die cracks are like toning.
    Everyone has their own likes and dislikes.
    So the value depends on the buyer.
    If a person likes die cracks, they'll pay a bit more.
    If a person DOESN'T like die cracks, they'll pay less, or not even buy.

    But it appears there aren't nearly as many people who like die cracks as there are who like toning, especially rainbow toning.

    VAM's are always positive as far as I know.

    Beyond that, what GDJMSP said.
     
  6. kidromeo

    kidromeo I M LEGEND

    Welcome to Coin Talk...:)
     
  7. tcore

    tcore Coin Collector

    Welcome to CoinTalk and I would echo what Kanga said.
     
  8. 50 CENT

    50 CENT Member

    Thanks, everybody. I've learned a lot by reading these threads. Been here about six months, but I finally had to ask a question.
     
  9. Haleiwa

    Haleiwa New Member

    Aloha and welcome to the forum. I too am a newbie but quickly learned that this crowd has some good answers. Ask away . . . If we don't know the answer, we'll say something that will baffle the best and you'll never know if you got the right answer or the left one. :mouth:
     
  10. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    That's right. The question is "How positive ?"

    Some are a really big deal, others are so obscure they command very little premium.

    and WELCOME, 50 CENT ! I've always enjoyed your hip-hop albums. :rolleyes:

    Somebody had to say it...
     
  11. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Yes, as a general rule die cracks add no value - but there are exceptions.

    There is a very prized 1794 Large Cent called the "wheelspoke" variety (S-33). There are several die cracks on the reverse which are radial from the rim to the letters. Together, they create a wheelspoke effect. It is not a die variety - it is a die state variety. There are very few specimens (R-6), and they are very spendy.

    Much can be learned from the study of die cracks, notably the emission sequence of various die varieties. If two varieties have the same obverse die but different reverse dies, specialists look for signs of die wear on the obverse die (notably cracks). The variety with more die wear or cracks was made later.
     
  12. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    The Huzak specimen of 1794 1c S-33, VF35, sold for over $100,000 last February.

    It is condition census #1 - finest known. There are only 8 others.
     
  13. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Welcome to CT , personally I like die cracks , but I wont pay extra for them , at least not much , Nice toning I will pay extra , also for certain VAMS I'll pay extra .
    rzage
     
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