die crack or not

got it today and not sure if it a die crack or not

 

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Raised line or etched in?

 

it is raised on the back and all the way across america

 

The fact that it's raised and doesn't (seem to) go through the devices makes it a good candidate for a die crack.

Got some larger pics?

 

Certainly looks like a die crack to me.

 

give me a few min and i will get some closer. i just relized it has a die rotation about 170 deg would that add to the value

 

I don't think die rotation would add much value. It was quite common for this to happen back in the day. Makes for an interesting piece though.......

 

hope thes help

 

I will third the die crack explanation.

 

The mark between the 1st and 2nd roman numeral doesn't look like a die crack. It is too straight. Besides, I disagree with the idea that a die crack would stop on one side of a device and continue again on the other side. It doesn't happen like that.

Chris

 

A die crack could affect a device or not.

 

I disagree. It would be two separate cracks, then.

Chris

 

Im talking about the spot all the way down the leaves not across the numerals

 

Sorry. I gotcha! I was simply drawn to the marks across the numerals.

Yes, that looks like a pretty good rim-to-rim die break with substantial metal displacement. I would guess that if they continued using that die too much longer, it would have resulted in a huge cud.

Chris

 

Ty and what do you think about the top of America as well

 

There is quite a bit of metal displacement on both sides of the "I", but I'm guessing the die would have broken apart along the "rim-to-rim" break before that developed into anything larger.

Chris

 

How much do you think is is worth like it is

 

Why? The device is incused in the die. If there were a crack in the die at that venue it would stop at the device and then continue on after it it, would it not?

 

It's very unlikely, Greenie. If a crack came to a device, it would either continue through the device or just stop (period!). If it stops, it may start again after continued striking, but it would definitely extend through the device. I'm basing this on looking at umpteen thousands of Morgans which are well-known for having die cracks.

Chris

 

well does the one i have have a die crack on it