Did Signature Confirmation Save Me Here?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by IBetASilverDollar, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    Sold a ~$500 coin on ebay 3 weeks ago and see the guy has an ebay score of 9 with no transactions in a few years and think here we go.

    I sent with signature confirmation (as noted in my listing) and he wasn't there to sign for it. He never scheduled another delivery and never went to pick up. He never responded to my messages on ebay. He just bought the coin and put no effort in to ever actually get the coin. That's what leads me to believe he was up to something fishy.

    So my question is, did having signature confirmation prevent anything shady here somehow? He clearly had no interest in the coin.

    It's on the way back to me by the way so I'm only out the shipping costs thankfully. Just curious what would have happened here if they left it in his mailbox with no confirmation what kind of stunt he may have pulled. If signature confirmation saved me somehow I'll use it for almost all sales it's worth the $2.
     
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  3. Youngcoin

    Youngcoin Everything Collector

    I think it may have saved you alot of trouble (He may have said he never received the package) but who's knows anything could have happened but I highly doubt it. Defintly worth the two dollars.

    Thanks,
    Jacob
     
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  4. SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom

    SilverWilliesCoinsdotcom Well-Known Member

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  5. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    Yep the mailbox theft potential is why I have everything shipped to my work address now. I used to deliver to my house and realized that was unwise for a number of reasons.
     
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  6. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    That is why I have a post office box. I use it as my address for everything, even the doctor's records. And if they won't ship to a PO Box, or it is a FedEx/UPS package, I just use the physical address of the post office with my box number as an apartment number. They don't know the difference, and I still get it the same. And then I don't have anything of value attached to where I live.
     
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  7. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    Refusal of delivery, which includes not accepting or signing for a package equates to the buyer losing buyer protection. While it's certainly possible the account was stolen and the purchase fraudulent or fishy to begin with; it's also completely possible something happened to the person or a family member unexpectedly, etc which took precedence over anything else.

    I believe it's now over $750 where you must have signature required to be covered so you theoretically should have been fine without signature required per Ebay's own rules though.
     
  8. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather not leave it in their hands and use signature over like 300.
     
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  9. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    I usually do at around that point myself just for peace of mind. I've had one very negative experience with Ebay but have heard of much worse ones.
     
  10. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I've had one as well and only USPS insurance saved me on it. I have 0 faith in eBay ever coming through for a seller that isn't a big boy
     
  11. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Nice trick using the PO street address. I run into this problem occasionally, and will have to do this next time
     
  12. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    My packages from CNG are sent signature required but the mail carrier has always just left it in my mailbox. If I track them, it states “Signed for by an individual”. It’s more convenient for me but I am curious how it would work out if something didn’t show up.
     
  13. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    Did you receive payment for the coin before sending it? If you did you can deduct the shipping and fees from the refund. If you didn't, well...why did you send it?
     
  14. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    He paid instant. Can i deduct the shipping costs even if it was free shipping initially?
     
  15. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    You'd almost certainly be out of luck. Any process you went through would just keep telling you their records show it was delivered
     
  16. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I think if it got serious the postal carrier would be in big trouble because the signature wouldn’t be good and my wife and I are the only people who would have been able to sign for it. It would have my name on the package and I doubt he would try to convince me that I signed for it.
     
  17. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    They do have a thing with a signature on file which could be why you have that happen in which case the postal worker is doing what they are supposed to.

    As far as him try and convince you of anything if it came down to it, he wouldn't have to. The burden is on you to prove that their system is completely wrong and that he knowingly committed fraud. Don't be so sure they'd fall on a grenade for you
     
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